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Total Members Voted: 23

[Akroma]

well, and now people are gathering arms against him. They have little less than a week until anima summons him, as ICARUS dealt a huge wound on him, and we want him to be forced into the battle before he had time to recover. Also, ICARUS gained a suprise weapon she is not telling anyone about yet

[Twi]

One of these days, Bismuth needs to upgrade her claymore to the ICOOC model. (Kudos to those who remember that. :p))

[Empiricist]

you don't, no. But it depends on whom you sacrifice to. For many that want you to murder someone for them, it's more about the symbolic loss of innosense that is put upon you from the killing, for some it matters whom the corpse belongs to, like a doctors corpse is good for a demon that causes plagues. "Just" corpses works best for Targunitoth, the domain tied closest to necromancy. They can always need more corpses

Does reading 4chan inside/near the circle count for the whole loss of innocence thing? Could you just throw money in and tell them to go buy their own symbolic stuff?

Emp, you're being dumb. Spacetime is a thing. This implies that time is quantifiable which implies that there is a concrete past in the sense of moving backwards along the time dimension. :I

Not necessarily, space-time is a thing, but it does not facilitate anything pertaining to the past. After all, it may be distorted to slow down time, but not even a blackhole reverses it.

[Akroma]

neither works, I think

[Twi]

Eh, it probably works by many-worlds interpretation.  Is a different past. However, if you return to the  original universe, then you can still get some good info out of it, right?

[Empiricist]

What about reciting Bay12? Or throwing in a FATAL rulebook?

Eh, it probably works by many-worlds interpretation.  Is a different past. However, if you return to the  original universe, then you can still get some good info out of it, right?

Perhaps, but how are you sure that past is the same as the past of the original? After all, the universe isn't necessarily deterministic thanks to quantum mechanics.

[Akroma]

nobody has tried that, I think

[Empiricist]

Huh. If FATAL was designed to be a perverse abomination to be offered in occult rituals, it suddenly makes a lot more sense.

[Twi]

I feel like people overuse Heisenberg on non-quantum stuff. These are macro-scale events. Sure, there's some indeterminability, but does it really matter for our purposes?

[GreatWyrmGold]

for stronger uncreated, it's more or less used to aim the call you send out. For weaker entities, it literaly drags them into creation against their will, and if the summoner has enough willpower, allows for a (usualy temporary) binding to a set of rules given by the summoner.

So, it's kinda like a phone rune?

The reasoning is simply that the past is merely what a person recalls and thinks occurred, that is, it is merely perception and knowledge, there is no concrete past.

...Darn. You actually explained your point of view well there. Now I need to resort to higher physics to try and do this. And I have to hope that reversibility applies to all applicable laws of physics.

Emp, you're being dumb. Spacetime is a thing. This implies that time is quantifiable which implies that there is a concrete past in the sense of moving backwards along the time dimension. :I

Not necessarily, space-time is a thing, but it does not facilitate anything pertaining to the past. After all, it may be distorted to slow down time, but not even a blackhole reverses it.

Oh look, advanced science got involved without me.
You can't use one specific method to travel to the past. That's like saying that since you can't walk to London*, you can't get to London at all.
(For the sake of argument, assume you live outside the Brittish Isles.)
If you take all the particles in a system and simply reverse their velocities, it goes in the exact opposite direction than that it was before--ie, time effectively flows backwards. Mind, it's practically impossible to do so, but with magic, why can't you use such properties of physics to travel to the past? (Or effectively to the past, at least.)

I feel like people overuse Heisenberg on non-quantum stuff. These are macro-scale events. Sure, there's some indeterminability, but does it really matter for our purposes?

Depends. If you set things up right? Sure. *cough*RadioactiveIsotopeAndPoisonInABox*/cough*

[Akroma]

I suppose that is a..somewhat fitting analogy

[Twi]

If you take all the particles in a system and simply reverse their velocities, it goes in the exact opposite direction than that it was before--ie, time effectively flows backwards. Mind, it's practically impossible to do so, but with magic, why can't you use such properties of physics to travel to the past? (Or effectively to the past, at least.)

still works decently in that case.

[Empiricist]

Yes, I know it's a cop-out, but it is still theoretically possible, though not remotely likely for weird shit to occur. Very well, I shall present a different argument. How would you know it's the past? You can only observe the area you are in, not the rest of the universe, even if you could do so, his supposed past may have a differing past to the past of your own past.

Emp, you're being dumb. Spacetime is a thing. This implies that time is quantifiable which implies that there is a concrete past in the sense of moving backwards along the time dimension. :I

Not necessarily, space-time is a thing, but it does not facilitate anything pertaining to the past. After all, it may be distorted to slow down time, but not even a blackhole reverses it.

Oh look, advanced science got involved without me.
You can't use one specific method to travel to the past. That's like saying that since you can't walk to London*, you can't get to London at all.
(For the sake of argument, assume you live outside the Brittish Isles.)
If you take all the particles in a system and simply reverse their velocities, it goes in the exact opposite direction than that it was before--ie, time effectively flows backwards. Mind, it's practically impossible to do so, but with magic, why can't you use such properties of physics to travel to the past? (Or effectively to the past, at least.)

1.) Well, the other option commonly considered is FTL, but that gets screwed over by mass dilation.
2.) Because magic is dictated by fickle beings known as the players and the GM. And the GM doesn't want time-travel backwards at all. I can't really present any meaningful arguments on that seeing as magic here involves arbitrary geometrical constructs, interest rates and sex.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Also, My plot will continue after Kansa's is finished, and after Rag's is resolved, because my plot needs a month timeskip.

I have a plot too, though it's meant to be delivered piecemeal instead of all at once, so... *shrug*

[Empiricist]

Yay! Multiplots! Now we just need to induce a bit of mutual interference