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[Patrick Hunt]

And are my people still under a standing arrest on sight order?

[Terenos]

Yes and yes.

[Elfeater]

Same mission?

[Harbingerjm]

((Wow, with all the threats and dealings of the other players, I'm surprised Alexis has gotten the hardest decision to make so far in the game.))

That is entirely a matter of opinion.
I for one consider my quandry of whether to adress the Duke as Your Grace or Your Highness far more difficult.

[TCM]

((Wow, with all the threats and dealings of the other players, I'm surprised Alexis has gotten the hardest decision to make so far in the game.))

That is entirely a matter of opinion.
I for one consider my quandry of whether to adress the Duke as Your Grace or Your Highness far more difficult.

Have you considered the alternatives? Your Majesty? Your Greatness? Your Nizzle' Fo Shizzle'?

[Terenos]

Yes Elfeater, same mission. Since you're out in the field and unaware of the change in leadership, presumably you'll continue to act on your standing orders. Upon your return you'll be dealing with me, and I will honor Adwarf's agreement.

[Patrick Hunt]

I'm looking forward to when the tribes move. If they track my people they'll find you first and I can't even warn you whats coming because you'd arrest and kill me messenger . 17000+ pissed off soldiers all of whom are better trained and equally equipped to your 1000.

If my sabotage attempt fails again and since in 2 of my games my rolls have been ungodly good recently it probably will.

[Taricus]

Hey Tere, how much would you pay to see said 17000+ horsemen get turned into red paste via grapeshot?

[Terenos]

Thats an excellent question but I'm currently quite poor. Given I'm not getting that sweet sweet merchant income. But we can fix a price. Since it would effectively be worth my kingdom, as you'd be saving it.

I'd love to hire you, but unless dire things start happening I cant really afford to.

[Taricus]

Well, mercenaries don't cost upkeep so much as they cost a contract. I'm sure we could work something out.

[Patrick Hunt]

But the contract has to match or exceed your upkeep still. It costs a lot and unless he has about 500 cannon it ain't gonna work very well.

[Taricus]

Full regiment of about 1000 dwarves. If placed upon the walls, I doubt you'll ever take the capital.

[Patrick Hunt]

Against 17000 prof soldiers? 1000 dwarvs ain't gonna hold the entire wall they'll just flood it from all sides. No matter how good they are 10 dwarves ain't gonna hold off 500 who come at them all at once.

You'll need a lot more then a couple of cannons and a dwarven force thats far to slow and to few in number to match it's enemy.


Besides which you need food, if you just sit inside the walls they'll just sit outside, either you'll starve or you'll have to march out against them. Either way they win. Your gonna need far more men and your own cavalry to even stand a hope.

[Elfeater]

One man on a wall is worth ten on the ground. Now, these are dwarves not men. So one Dwarf for every twenty. Now. Add artillery. You are forced to attack the walls, or else be shot to death. Not to mention the three thousand human warriors, as well as my men if they return before hand.

[Patrick Hunt]

Be shot how? Even at max range the horsemen can sit even further out and just leave some mobile scouts nearby. Your odds of a long range hit on a moving scout are slim to none and they'll still see if anybody comes out in time to warn the main force to ride you into the ground, if you try to get food in from outside they have to get past the cavalry, doubtful without multiple well armed regiments which you don't have. Try to get out to forage? You've got under half a mile where you have reasonable safety. Not even close enough to feed 4000 soldiers for long let alone a city. Try to go further out and cannons lose accuracy and a fast moving mobile army will sweep over you.

Besides which this isn't realistic. Your 4000 men are defending an entire city so they'll be spread very thinly and a single breach is all it'd take to force you off the walls. A single foothold and sheer numbers will soon overwhelm you since you can't counter attack without opeing yourself to another dozen, plus you have the spite of the dice and 17000 men who are better trained then most of those humans and a fair few of which have bows to thin out defenders on the wall. Plus it depends on the wall design and the length your defending. 10-1 on a wall designed for it thats small? Sure. 10-1 on a massive standard wall? Not a hope in hell.

4000 men is still a slim chance to hold the walls and still traps you inside to starve. Theres a reason sieges were almost always broken from the outside and it's impossible to break one without coming out or an outside force doing it. Your cannon don't have the range or accuracy over long distance to break a siege.


Look at the mongols for instance, they faced massive cities with numberically superior defenders who were well trained who had cannons.
That did not stop them conquering everything in there parth for generations with inferior equipment and lower numbers. Your facing an enemy that has almost every advantage. A small army inside a city might be able to hold the walls. Might.
But all your doing is bottling yourselves up to die unless somebody else sends a bigger army to break the siege.