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[ICBM pilot]

That was closer than I expected. http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oucurrent-46460016

[Rolepgeek]

...I have a question.

Since Gravity reduces Evasion by 2/5, is it banned from your tourneys, Akroma?

[Heron TSG]

It isn't banned under the normal evasion clause because it doesn't raise evasion. It's used on occasion by such Pokemon as Golurk to increase the accuracy of normally inaccurate moves. (Stone Edge, Dynamic Punch without No Guard, etc)

[Rolepgeek]

I was wondering about Akroma's in particular, especially since she has several banned pokemon not considered Uber(Wobuffet comes to mind first, really).

Hmmmm...Just considering things for the next monotype tourney. A Gravity based team could do quite well, at least with the playstyle I prefer.

Oh! Barbarossa, I figured out pretty much the only way for my team with minimal adjustment to counter yours!

Trick Room and/or Gravity.

[Heron TSG]

I don't see how making moves more accurate with Gravity would help, but yeah, Trick Room is one way to stop fast teams. On the other hand, one can simply pack along some slower Pokemon to keep on rolling until the trick room runs out. Usually the Pokemon that use Trick Room are pretty obvious about it, so it's easy to see it coming and try to hold on. It's disruptive and has to be prepared for, though.

(A gravity based team doesn't make a whole lot of sense outside of monotype ground teams, to be honest.)

EDIT: Huh, I just noticed that Garchomp is banned (they're normally OU) and Giratina-O isn't. Watch out for that, whoever is matched against Ghost or Dragon next time.  It strikes me as a little odd that Wobbuffet is banned since it's only in UU, since the encore nerf in gen V was basically a Wobbuffet nerf, but on the other hand trappers are annoying as hell.

EDIT EDIT: Oh hey, and Gothitelle is around.

[Reudh]

Garchomp was straight up in Ubers because of its high attack, speed, brilliant offensive typing, and powerful moves.

[Heron TSG]

In DPP, sure. It's OU in 5th generation because OU has loads of new stuff to deal with it. 102 base speed isn't as fast as it once was with Terrakion and Keldeo around, not to mention old foes in Starmie and Alakazam. (Who is viable now!) 130 base attack isn't as scary with Ferrothorn, Jellicent, Poison Heal Gliscor, and so forth, and moreover one can use Landorus-T for a better offensive ground type, or Haxorus for much more power and even the chance for more speed with dragon dance. Garchomp is good, but he's not Genesect or Landorus, who were recently booted up to Ubers.

[Akroma]

sorry, I noticed that the list in the OP happens to be a very old uber list, and is out-dated. Just enter OU as the format when creating a team, and the current ubers wont be listed.




gravity is fine, why wouldn't it?




anyway it was a shame that ICBM basicaly lost against electric in absentia. I hope this wont happen again


well, against electric it is then!


Baraborossa, I shall be on a bit later and ready for the match, got stuff to do.
I'd say in about 2 hours


dont forget, poison is now also up against psycho. it may turn into a crucial oversight that no poison-dark types are in the team, alakazam basicaly sweeps it entirely on its on.

thankfully, ICBM does have the right to change a mon, since he is now in losers brackets. and sucker punch might prove absolutely crucial as well



edit: ready now when you are

[Akroma]

I am in arts and crafts now, if you got time

[Heron TSG]

ICBM didn't lose to electric while absent, he lost to electric while battling me. I said that, and I'm sure ICBM can confirm it. Probably should have been more clear I guess.

Had a couple good matches, forgot to save the replay link. Scapheap's team got jumped by Thornado the Thundurus, but I forgot about ICBM Pilot's real Toxicroak possibly having Sucker Punch, and it led to a pretty darn good match. (They showed up right as Scapheap and I were battling!) I guess I'm against bug next, and am ready when you are.

Sorry I wasn't awake at 3 AM to battle, I'll be right there.

[Akroma]

oh? I thought he got replaced. oh well, shame about the replay




also, how dare you sleep at 3 AM

[Heron TSG]

Beat Akroma in a good game.

I found the replay from me vs. ICBM Pilot while searching for this one, since we both closed out too fast.

[Akroma]

well, the crippling fire weakness was an issue to begin with, and with 5 of 6 mons having fire attacks, and at least two to three of them scarfed to outspeed my sweepers, little could be done. bit of luck involved with that crit voltswitch on volcarona, followed by the thunderbolt paralyzing it and the par instantly activating ( 6.25% crit chance, 10% par chance, 25% chance of par making me miss the move...bah, that was a lot of luck. of not for this unlikely chain of event, fiery dance after a quiver dance would have got rid of thornadus, while leaving alife the only one not fearing fire attacks...yeah, that was a turning point of the battle.)


funny part, you would probably find less fire attacks in an actual sun-team. it's like trying to bee-sting lava..




oh well, double-elimination. for my upcoming matches, I will be replacing one mon


now, again, everything is waiting for ICBM to finish his match against sjm9876, the winner of that fight will fight against my bug team, now with a new member, and then it's goes against electric.

fun part: as electric has not lost a battle yet, whomever goes against him has to win against him TWICE to defeat him, and before the second battle, he can even switch moves, to set all those HP-fires (jesus christ, they were everywhere!) into hidden-power-whatever-hits-you.
this will be a seriously tough nut to crack. It's a shame I am limited to the amount of changes to my team...

hmm...maybe I wont be changing a mon afterall, but instead switch a couple of items and moves...would be a very specialised counter against the electric team, but might just be a necessity if I wanna win this...

also, we lost the replay, because we are fools


edit: there we go, 6 changes made to make sure that if I stand against electric again, he won't see the light of the day. rather difficult with just a max of 6 changes (items and moves combined), but passable...

my original idea was to simply use ninjask to set-up a speedboost baton pass, but the problem is, baton-pass unto what?
no single one of my pokemon would have the coverage to one-hit his entire team, especialy not without a life-orb. and I would not be able to put a life-orb unto anyone but volcarona, as nothing else would have been able to switch into a fire attack without a focus-sash.

and hey, when changing a mon, I wouldn't have been able to change anything besides the mon, so basing my entire chance of somehow winning against electric on only volcarona...nah. I am hoping my set-up as I have it now works.

[Heron TSG]

Hey now, only four of them have fire moves.  I might have counterteamed a little against the ice/bug/grass part of the bracket. It's not too bad of coverage with electric, either. Only dragons, water/grounds, rock/grounds, and Rotom-H resist the combo outright, and dragons are out. I had other plans for the ground team, though that would have been a wacky match.

The lower bracket looks to be interesting. Psychic vs. Poison could easily go to psychic, but then again poison beat ground despite the disadvantage. Though that Starmie is pretty fast... I'd say that Crobat will be a hero in that match if ICBM Pilot wins. Or Toxicroak, strangely, with that powerful Sucker Punch. And then it's off to either Psychic vs. Volcarona Bug or Poison vs. Bug. I think Akroma's team might have an advantage in the former, but again Crobat would do pretty well against the bug team if brave bird recoil doesn't build up too quickly.

[Akroma]

with my changes to the team, I am afraid my playstyle will have some drastic changes, so I have no idea wether I even make it


btw, idea for the second monotype tourney:

I feel a bit bored if everyone just uses the leftover types. Instead, every type, including dragon and steel, will be viable, and everyone will be able to choose a type freely.

However!

type selection will be in order of elimination of the last 2 tournaments. first go those with few wins, as well as potential new arrivals. last go those with relatively high amount of wins - of course taking into account that barbarossa, ICBM and sjm9876 joined later, and thus will be rated a bit higher. this way, the ones who so far had the least out of this tournament now have the chance to make the most of it, while the ones who can take a challenge will have one


This will be the order of chosing:

Culise   (assuming joins)
Reudh  (assuming joins)
any other new arrival (perhaps YOU? Join now, pick dragon, dominate tournament of unsuspecting fools?)
Scapheap (0 out of 4)
Rolepgeek (0 out of 5 but good side-performance)
Kansa (3 out of 7)
IamanElfCollaborator (4 out of 7)
yet unconfirmed, but likely high are:
sjm9876 (3 out of 4, rising)
ICBM pilot (2 out of 3, rising)
Akroma ( 7 out of 8, rising)
Barbarossa TSG (3 out of 3, rising)

correct me if I miscounted anything. the new arrivals can already start picking, and everyone else in the order after this. the unconfirmed ones, please wait for now
Elf-collab, please wait as well, ICBM or sjm9876 will fall below you, depending on who of them loses