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[evilcherry]

Not really a suggestion, but it sounds like the Robot route could led to more interdependence, while the clone route has lower startup cost but suffers from economies of scale.

[10ebbor10]

Not really a suggestion, but it sounds like the Robot route could led to more interdependence, while the clone route has lower startup cost but suffers from economies of scale.

The problem with the clone route is that people proposed 200+ different genetic mutations to try out, which drowned out all other suggestions.

Note: Large hydroponics is listed as medium hydroponics

Spoiler: Suggestion List (click to show/hide)

23001

> Mobile Drilling Station
> Mining Rig
> Oil Refiner
> Smelter
> Grinder
> Concrete Applicator
> Large Manufacturing Station
> Small Prefab
> Comm array
> Research computer bank
> Fuel Burning Generator
> Solar power plant
> Small Capacitor

Equipment
: Handheld vegetation handler
: Loomery
:Handheld mining unit
: One of each weapon and equipement

Left: 6251 (Good enough to buy cloning installation, or blueprints and weaponry to reverse engineer)

Power Need: 9
Power supply: 10 + x
Storage: 20

Cloning edition
10 clone show
10 nutrient mix
Fast cloning station
Education add on
Small hydroponics
2451 left
(Note: Could need additional habitation and power supply. Also, some clones)

Robot edition
Standard robot blueprint
5* combat software
2* managing software
5* Standard robot
+1 Solar power plant
Upgrade capacitor to medium
2861 (Get some additional weaponry/vehicles, the gravity thingy, or hire some researchers. Your choice)

[RulerOfNothing]

Not really a suggestion, but it sounds like the Robot route could led to more interdependence, while the clone route has lower startup cost but suffers from economies of scale.

The problem with the clone route is that people proposed 200+ different genetic mutations to try out, with drowned out all other suggestions.

While that was somewhat unfortunate, what's to say we won't get something similar with robots?

[Evil Lincoln]

Not really a suggestion, but it sounds like the Robot route could led to more interdependence, while the clone route has lower startup cost but suffers from economies of scale.

The problem with the clone route is that people proposed 200+ different genetic mutations to try out, with drowned out all other suggestions.

If it's really a problem they can go get their own thread or something. I don't really see that much of a problem with it anyway, you guys talk forever about any decision regardless of whether there are clones or not.

[kaian-a-coel]

I'd rather go with robots and pray that customisation suggestions wont drown the game into oblivion.
For the animal, I suggest the shark. Generic one. Possibly the blackfin, or the fox shark. Whatever.

I fully expect our takeover to involve "peaceful" exchanges of !!FUN!!.

[Gamerlord]

Hammerhead shark for an animal.

Also, for equipment here's some simple guidelines I think we should follow:

-basic equipment from each category. we need to be flexible at first.
-equal amount of clones and robots to begin with, we can decide which is better later.

[10ebbor10]

-equal amount of clones and robots to begin with, we can decide which is better later.

That's problematic. Because for the clones, we'll need to build a cloner, extra food production and extra living space . For the robots, we need a fairly large manufactory, extra power supply and extra mineral resources.

Question: How much power does a robot need to charge up?

[Gamerlord]

No no, I meant for us to take them with us premade and decide which is more useful later.

[Evil Lincoln]

Question: How much power does a robot need to charge up?

Let's say 0.1 per turn (for a total of 0.5)

[kaian-a-coel]

Here is a full robot list:

-large manufacture
-small hydroponics and harvester
-all the construction stuff (one of each)
-one small and one medium prefab
-two solar panels and one small capacitor
-all robot blueprints and unlimited software use
-mining rig, mobile oil rig thing, small smelter and refiner
-research station
-a buggy, one set of body armor, five laser rifles, one laser pistol
-six standard bots

total: 22 800 creds, 201 left.

[Gamerlord]

Looks good to me, but we need to bring food for ourself!

[10ebbor10]

Looks good to me, but we need to bring food for ourself!

We can gather on the spot before we get hungry.

Here is a full robot list:

-large manufacture
-small hydroponics and harvester
-all the construction stuff (one of each)
-one small and one medium prefab
-two solar panels and one small capacitor
-all robot blueprints and unlimited software use
-mining rig, mobile oil rig thing, small smelter and refiner
-research station
-a buggy, one set of body armor, five laser rifles, one laser pistol
-six standard bots
total: 22 800 creds, 201 left.

We don't need unlimited software licenses. We'd need to build 50 combat robots and 32 management robots before that becomes cost effective, and  by that time we can design our own software. Same for the robot layouts, I'd suggest only buying the standard edition, and forgetting about the cheap thing. Additionally I don't know  I don't know if we're such good researchers, so sparing some money to hire them might be in order.

We don't need a medium prefab either. After all, the only one who's going to need sleep is us. The robots can charge at the solar generator. Neither do we need the gravitic construction thingy. We can use wood or other stuff just as well, or print layer by layer. It's slower, but we only got 1 liquid cement thingy.

I don't know if a small capacitor will be good enough to see us through the night, so switching one of the solars to a combustion generator might be better. We're digging up oil and gas, after all.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'll agree with ebbor.

[10ebbor10]

Oh, and a comms array is a must. Otherwise we can only communicate if the trading ship happens to pass over.

[Urist Mc Dwarf]

Ebbor's idea is good to me