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[Akura]

Inb4 Belkor multiclasses to healer

Technically speaking, as a high level Ranger he already is... if his dump stat wasn't Wisdom.

[TD1]

It's Serini's Gate, which she built in honour of Kraagor. I assume that the memorial aspect doesn't extend throughout the entire Gate, since this kind of interconnectivity (literally or otherwise) is the kind of shenanigan that a rogue might do to confuse and disorient intruders. Serini does know where all of the other gates are, so it's not a big stretch to assume she would know about their defenses and design.

Yea, but it seems ridiculously stupid to design her gate in such a way as to give clues concerning the other gates' defenses.

[crazyabe]

actually, a replica of each and every gate dungeon with small, but incredibly deadly unexpected changes WOULD be very effective, given getting to hers is set up to be incredibly annoying such that one would likely go through EVERY other gate first that may be exactly what she did.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Yea, but it seems ridiculously stupid to design her gate in such a way as to give clues concerning the other gates' defenses.

Xykon knows where the gates are because younger Serini wrote it (encoded) into her diary. It might be stupid, but it's not out of character.

[TD1]

Slightly different, though. An encoded message in a diary she didn't anticipate anyone ever reading
As opposed to a trap/gate designed with someone hostile entering it in mind.

[Kagus]

I mean... If you're encoding a message, you're doing so in the anticipation that someone unwanted might end up reading it.

[Rolan7]

1288.
Classics

[Akura]

I wonder what would happen if those disenchanters hit Redcloak's Unholy Symbol.

[Criptfeind]

With a normal holy symbol I'd guess probably nothing. I don't think (un)holy symbols are magical in of themselves, just conductive for channeling divine power. Maybe. Although if we're talking about Xykon's phylactery... good question. Disenchanters are high enough cr that it wouldn't be too silly for them to pose a threat to even something like a lich, but I'm not sure if holding a liches soul should/would be considered a "special ability" that can be drained. Or even how phylacteries actually work, which isn't percisely spelled out in the monster manual and I'm unsure if it was ever printed elsewhere. Although it'd make sense I suppose.

The bigger issue the disenchanter would face I notice, now that I'm rereading it's stat block, is when sucking from magic items with charges it sucks 10-40% of the current charges. So if you had a wand with 10 charges it'd suck like 4, then 2, then 2, then 1, then be stuck I guess? Suckling on that last remaining charge like me trying to get the last of the peanut butter out of the jar for a 3AM sandwich?

Every year hundreds of disenchanters starve to death trying to suck out the final charge from a wand. For the low low price of an enchanted shield per month, you can save a life. Call now.

[Kagus]

Sucking out 40% of a charge means you won't be able to fully cast the spell; so for a wand of missiles you wouldn't be able to launch a full cast of Magic Missile, just a Magic Miss.

[Akura]

The thing I was going for with the phylactery is that, besides being both a phylactery and Unholy Symbol, it's loaded with abjurations that would make destroying(or locating) it difficult. Plus, I wonder what kind of reaction Redcloak would have to seeing it de-magicked, and if Xykon would notice that reaction and figure out why. As far as Xykon knows, the Unholy Symbol Redcloak is using isn't his phylactery.


Also, are you reading the 3.5 stat block for disenchanters? Because these look like they might be from an older edition based on what I'm seeing on the GitP forum. I don't have access to anything more than the SRD so I don't know.

[Criptfeind]

Also, are you reading the 3.5 stat block for disenchanters? Because these look like they might be from an older edition based on what I'm seeing on the GitP forum. I don't have access to anything more than the SRD so I don't know.

The one I was reading was the 3.0 stat block, but the book it's in (the first fiend folio) is in that gray area before 3.5 where it's before 3.5 was published but they knew 3.5 was coming so it's basically compatible with 3.5.

Of course, it could be from any edition or even have abilities heretofore unseen altogether. I wasn't making too serious a statement.

[hops]

Does Xykon have knees? We've never seen them.

[Mathel]

Yes, Xykon has knees. He used to be a human, and human skeletons have knees.

[Kagus]

Well, what do we define as a "knee"? The cartilage of the kneecap itself and most of the joint has almost certainly withered away, not to mention all of the musculature and other connective tissue, so that basically just leaves us with "the space between the femur and tibia" to be called a knee. Can the absence of something be a thing?