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[Lord Shonus]

Not misleading, they're just not guranteed to be correct because they're somebody telling the story. So you only get that limited POV instead of the usual omniscient narrator.

[Mobbstar]

1256

We finally learn what Sunny's most powerful eye-ray is!!!1!

[Mathel]

Why would Sironi think negotiating with Xykon or giving him what he wants would be easier for the gods than scrapping the world? (Though really, Redcloak is the mastermind here, not Xykon.)

Giving Redcloak what he wants would involve changing the worldview of all the sentient races (including goblinoids). That's not something that can be done overnight. Not even by gods.
Sure, the various priesthoods could issue commandments that goblinoids are now considered people rather than monsters. But they'd still be in for decades or centuries of racism.

Scrapping the world, on the other hand, is easy. You just take out the godly scissors and cut it up. (It is, apparently, made of yarn).

[Akura]

Probably because she thinks that the gods can just edit the world willy-nilly. They can't, they specifically prevent themselves from doing so, though Durkon might be the only mortal aware of that fact.

Consider a game developer's point of view: if there's something wrong with the program, should you patch it, or just dump the project and start all over again? Except in the gods' case, they write-lock the hard drive the game is installed on and the only way to publish an update patch is to buy a new drive.

[Mathel]

By the very fact that the gates need to be guarded by mortals, it should be obvious the gods can't edit the world as they wish.

If they could, they could just put a huge mountains without cave systems and with slightly below-average ore content (most of which would be galena) on them and make everybody forget the mountains were not there a month ago.

From dev's point of view: The issue is not really patching the program. The program is currently running, and if it crashes, the computer explodes. If the dev turns it off manually, they will be fine, but all unsaved progress will be lost.

[hops]

By the very fact that the gates need to be guarded by mortals, it should be obvious the gods can't edit the world as they wish.

If they could, they could just put a huge mountains without cave systems and with slightly below-average ore content (most of which would be galena) on them and make everybody forget the mountains were not there a month ago.

From dev's point of view: The issue is not really patching the program. The program is currently running, and if it crashes, the computer explodes. If the dev turns it off manually, they will be fine, but all unsaved progress will be lost.

ok but now i have this conspiracy theory that there's another gate which the gods just threw a mountain on top of and made everyone including themselves forget about it

[Dorsidwarf]

Glad to see that Serini's stubborness is not in fact limitless, haha.

[Rolan7]

1257

In which something is shiny!  Pretty sure that's all that happens.

[Egan_BW]

Shiny things are good.

[Kagus]

...has Sunny seen the Snarl?

Also this sounds like an excellent opportunity to cordon off the other two and deal with them separately

[Rolan7]

Yeah I was wondering if I was missing something.  I guess they really want a surprise round on Xykon in particular, but ganking his cleric and druid alone in a melee ambush sounds almost better.

Seems like they'd really rather prefer to fight Xykon indoors where he can't avoid Ron Greenhelm's ancestral sword, but I picture Xykon wandering back in anyway.  He's kinda an awful tactician/strategist, who would assume that Redcloak's just wasting too much time over some nerdy thing.

[hops]

What's the level situation on Team Evil again? Does Redcloak also outlevel the party? I assume so since Durkon basically had the start running immediately when Redcloak decided to implode him.

[Lord Shonus]

Redcloak has 9th-level spell slots, putting him at a minimum level of 17. Given that he was throwing around Implosion all the way back before he killed Tsukiko, and he's been fighting monsters tough enough that an epic level lich was getting XP, he's probably higher than that.

[hops]

jeez, these guys are way underleveled. why didn't they do more sidequests?

[Kagus]

jeez, these guys are way underleveled. why didn't they do more sidequests?

Railroading.