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[Blade Master Model 42]

It's both!

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/O%27aka_XXIII

[Lord Shonus]

Without the side-by-side comparison, the similar outfit didn't register.


I still think it is more of a "reference to a very common trope, with appearance modeled after a specific example" than it is a "reference directly to this character". The Final Merchant is almost ubiquitous.

[pikachu17]

oops.

[Rolan7]

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I still appreciate Belkar doing the animal thing.  There's something ironic but sweet about him trying desperately to be "deep" and "a team player" for his own survival, then also having this natural character growth on the side.  I feel like it's setting up for "Your ruse was doomed from the start, but you actually learned compassion".  The guilt over Durkon plays into that too of course.

[MagmaMcFry]

That symbol Haley is tracing feels so familiar. Looks like writing in Quern.

[scriver]

Eew cloud sex

[Akura]

That symbol Haley is tracing feels so familiar. Looks like writing in Quern.

According to the GitP community she's writing "♥ers"("lovers").

Eew cloud sex

One "joke" from the GitP forum was that Haley is going to be getting pregnant from that... with Belkar's baby since his cloud mass is coming into contract with hers.

[pikachu17]

That symbol Haley is tracing feels so familiar. Looks like writing in Quern.

According to the GitP community she's writing "♥ers"("lovers").

Eew cloud sex

One "joke" from the GitP forum was that Haley is going to be getting pregnant from that... with Belkar's baby since his cloud mass is coming into contract with hers.

But Belkar is not touching her, he's just behind her in 3d space. He's also behind Elan, so I guess it would be a threesome if they were touching.

Also, the wording of the oracle about Belkar was: "Belkar will draw his last breath—ever—before the end of the year."
What things in 3.5 DnD could he turn into or gain that he would still be alive, while not actually breathing? With that ambiguous wording, I doubt he'll actually stay dead.

[MrWiggles]

A construct, an undead, a ghost? He goes to a different plane and cant come back to Mortal one other he'll die?

[Lord Shonus]

Also, the wording of the oracle about Belkar was: "Belkar will draw his last breath—ever—before the end of the year."
What things in 3.5 DnD could he turn into or gain that he would still be alive, while not actually breathing? With that ambiguous wording, I doubt he'll actually stay dead.

That's the "on the record" bit that gets around the memory charm, but there was a lot more to in his aside comments (which have also been prophetic, and the stated reason for the memory charm was to keep clients from getting free prophecies). The other bits are "shouldn't bother funding his IRA" and "should really savor his next birthday cake". Losing the ability to eat cake could be a side effect of becoming some sort of undead, but even liches need cash.

Belkar fans have been trying to find a loophole in that prophecy since it was published. They almost invariably start with a "well, the Oracle is a liar, so" opener, because the general consensus is that the prophecy's too tight.

[Mathel]

Last ever breath precludes the other plane possibility, other than Astral Plane. On other planes, mortals still need to breathe.


I looked up what IRA is (other than Irish Republican Army), and found it is probably Individual Retirement Account.

This means, that the 3 prophecies combine into.
Belkar will stop breathing permanently before the year ends.
Belkar will not be able to eat the cake for his future birthdays.
Belkar will never retire or will not be able to use money.

This leaves a few options for what will happen to Belkar.
A) Die and never be ressurected.
B) Transform into something that has the following properties:
        (Not-breathing)and(Non-eating)and((non-aging)or(unable to use money))

This transformation could lead to:
Undead (likely)
Fiends (unlikely)
Constructs (very unlikely)
Elementals (unlikely)
Fish (likely)

You see, fish do not breathe, they do not eat cake and they do not use money. Yet my own guess is that he will just die and not be resurrected.

[Lord Shonus]

The likliest subversion of the prophecy is that Belkar will die for good, after the party's come to see him as a valued companion and ally. Making his final death a tragedy instead of the "finally free from that monster" relief that Roy expects.

[andrea]

Another comment if I recall correctly is that he is not long for this world or something like that. So you also need a no return extraplanar trip to whatever transformation you are proposing.

The simpler explanation is, of course, that he will die.

[Mathel]

There is another possibility I just thought up. An exceedingly unlikely one, but depending on the nature of the Snarl, I would not rule it out.

Time travel to the past.

[MrWiggles]

He gets tossed the Greenhilt sword, get sent to the past to undo the evil that is Aku.