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[scriver]

Ah. Oooh.

[FallacyofUrist]

Also, the cat. Look at the cat!

[scriver]

And also. Look at the stake that is lying right next to Belkar and cat

[TD1]

If he revives, will he still be dominated?

[Rolan7]

Yeah, sorry.
To clarify, the spell lasts for days, and allows sleep/rest.  The ability acts like said spell.

[Dorsidwarf]

Wow that spell reads as ridiculously, farcically powerful to me, having only 5es spells for comparison hahah

[Criptfeind]

It's pretty similar to the 5E version of Dominate person. The big differences that I can see are in 5E you can take direct control of their actions and they get a new save when they take damage, in 3.5 you can get sensory information and they get a new save when they are forced to "something against their nature", which is sorta a wash. And the biggest differences are that in 5E it only lasts a minute (which means it's still just about as good a combat spell, but worse for out of combat uses) and needs concentration, like most 5E spells with an ongoing effect.

[Egan_BW]

I find it funny that the target gets to roll a new save each day that passes, if you don't spend one round concentrating on the spell each day. Under what circumstances would you be so busy that you don't have the opportunity to spend six seconds maintaining control in your whole day?

I guess that would come into effect if the caster dominates someone, gives them an order, then has their own memory magically wiped, so they don't remember they have to do the concentrating thing? Or a GM could use it to fuck with a player who forgot to say they spend one round concentrating on the control, I guess.

[Criptfeind]

I think it's probably for when your allies kill the person who cast the spell on you.

[crazyabe]

I find it funny that the target gets to roll a new save each day that passes, if you don't spend one round concentrating on the spell each day. Under what circumstances would you be so busy that you don't have the opportunity to spend six seconds maintaining control in your whole day?

"You Dominated the Whole Bloody Kingdom and you DIDN'T Expect a few of the adventurers to break free when you forgot about them? Really?"

[smjjames]

Wouldn’t killing the  controller break the dominate? I suppose it depends on the particular dominate/control creature/charm/<any spell with the same kind of mind control effect> spell being used.

[Criptfeind]

In 3.5, no, afaik there's no rules that spell duration is tied to the life of the caster except in cases where that's explicitly the case (which it isn't for most spells of course) so spells continue on. Potentially certain self buffing spells would end as you turn from a creature into an object (what is a dead body in 3.5, creature or object, is actually somewhat debatable and an important distinction for some spells I believe) and thus no longer quallify as a target for the spell, but other then that they should just keep on past death.

In 5E almost all spells with an ongoing effect are concentration and thus will end when the dead caster can no longer concentrate. There are a few exceptions though I believe, which afaik would also continue past death.

[Lord Shonus]

Wow that spell reads as ridiculously, farcically powerful to me, having only 5es spells for comparison hahah

The limitation is that the Will Save isn't that hard to pass.

[FallacyofUrist]

The limitation is that the Will Save isn't that hard to pass.

And then the Order of the Stick basically started throwing ones left and right.

[smjjames]

The OOTS universe is 3.5 though, not 5E. Of course though, Helgya, of all people, should have a high will save, and then there’s Minrah who somehow dodged it, maybe wasn’t in line of sight.