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Lord Shonus

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2730 on: March 12, 2018, 10:17:24 pm »

Okay, recalculated, 15k pounds is  6 803.885 55 kilos, gonna round that up though.... New density is 2232.2834645669

You still have the volume wrong. A gelacube is 10'x10'x10', or 1000 cubic feet. This translates to ~28 cubic meters, not 3.
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« Reply #2731 on: March 12, 2018, 10:25:58 pm »

Okay yeah I was screwing it up. Still, that's a good deal less dense than water. I suppose they might be able to breathe the 'gel' if it was infused with oxygen, but not float in it.

Also makes them a heck of a lot less of a threat than they're supposed to be if the most they can do is try and suffocate you.
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« Reply #2732 on: March 12, 2018, 10:27:11 pm »

I wondered how the heck they'd be able to breathe while riding inside the gelatinous cube.
Bottles of air?  I know that 3.5 gelatinous cubes don't threaten suffocation/drowning for some reason, so it may just be some RAW silliness.  Air-impermeable gelatinous cubes came with Pathfinder and...well, 5e for sure, since I didn't follow 4e as much. 
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« Reply #2733 on: March 12, 2018, 10:32:31 pm »

The main threat from a gelacube is their special attacks. They do a pitiful amount of damage, but a successful attack carries a 3d6 round paralyzation (DC 20) and 1d6 acid damage. They can also engulf you (autosucceds if you are paralyzed) after which you take 1d6 acid damage pure round.  You're expected to fight these things at level 3.



As for breathing, the rules text doesn't say you can't breath inside one, and the 3.0e magic item you use to ride one specifically states that neither the cube or the item blocks air.
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« Reply #2734 on: March 12, 2018, 10:40:48 pm »

Also, a thing I notice, if the gelcubes are supposed to be 10 foot cubed, the ones shown in the latest comic are about half that size as they aren't much bigger than the dwarves themselves. Could be juveniles or a dwarf (heh) variant.
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« Reply #2735 on: March 27, 2018, 07:52:13 pm »

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« Reply #2736 on: March 27, 2018, 07:59:16 pm »

What was the Oracle's prophecy for (the ranger, because I have forgotten everyone's names)?

I have a feeling it might come up soon.
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« Reply #2737 on: March 27, 2018, 08:01:04 pm »

What was the Oracle's prophecy for (the ranger, because I have forgotten everyone's names)?

I have a feeling it might come up soon.

Basically that he won't live to see his next birthday, whenever that is.

Anyways, Belkar letting it all out in a rant, haven't had one of those in a while.
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« Reply #2738 on: March 27, 2018, 08:27:12 pm »

You are right. Haven't seen him do that in a while...

Does anyone know the exact words? It is a prophecy, the precise wording is important.
For instance, in the case of the words you used, he could simply go blind.
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« Reply #2739 on: March 27, 2018, 08:32:25 pm »

I think it was "Belkar will draw his last breath-ever-before the end of the year." Which implies real death without Resurrection. Or it could mean he turns into an unbreathing undead and doesn't get turned back. Or a fish.

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« Reply #2740 on: March 27, 2018, 08:38:28 pm »

Or he puts on a cursed amulet of not-needing-to-breathe.
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« Reply #2741 on: March 27, 2018, 08:45:31 pm »

Or he puts on a cursed amulet of not-needing-to-breathe.
if it doesn't kill him, doesn't sound very cursed.

I think it was "Belkar will draw his last breath-ever-before the end of the year." Which implies real death without Resurrection. Or it could mean he turns into an unbreathing undead and doesn't get turned back. Or a fish.

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One of three things will most likely happen.
1:It's a typical prophecy, and while it comes true, Belkar will not permenantly die.
2:He really is going to die, and the prophecy would be a double-blind for us genre-knowing.
3:the prophecy was faked, and Is not A prophecy at all. Unlikely, but included just in case.
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« Reply #2742 on: March 28, 2018, 12:47:38 am »

Yea but is that still technically breathing?  Don't they pass water through their gills and their gills just filter the oxygen out of the water?  The water really does not enter an internal organ or anything like we think of as breathing.
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« Reply #2743 on: March 28, 2018, 06:32:27 am »

But the prophecy for Belkar was not about he being the cause of death of the asshole samurai girl and her horse? Also Roy?
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« Reply #2744 on: March 28, 2018, 06:47:31 am »

That was the the formal prophecy Belkar requested, but the prediction of Belkar's death was a free bonus that the party received twice.  I'm not sure if the Oracle intended Roy to remember it; it depends on if the interaction between Dismissal and the memory charm was known to the Oracle or if Roy's assumption in the second comic was sound. 
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