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[Akura]

Aren't they about to go to a major temple to Thor, a god whose dwarven clerics will likely have ready access to Remove Disease because something like that would send dwarven souls to Hel rather than Thor?

This would also be very good opportunity for Durkon to rub some previously-said exact words back in the face of the vampire spirit.

Of course, this could mean that the crew of the Mechane is doomed.

[Mathel]

The thing is, from what vampire-Durkon was saying earlier, clerics are sometimes using spells from different gods. He was able to use weather controlling and said, that there is a contract between gods. If Thor refused to help the cleric of Hel, Hel might refuse to cure diseases for other clerics. She could refuse anyway, for the party.

[DAPARROT]

The thing is, from what vampire-Durkon was saying earlier, clerics are sometimes using spells from different gods. He was able to use weather controlling and said, that there is a contract between gods. If Thor refused to help the cleric of Hel, Hel might refuse to cure diseases for other clerics. She could refuse anyway, for the party.

If she did that, it would break the agreement, since she is not letting clerics of other gods cure diseases

[Egan_BW]

Yes, but maybe she'd bank on no longer needing those powers to complete her plan.

[Mathel]

That is what I mean. If that destroys the world, giving all norse god worshippers non-honorable deaths, she will not need the agreement anymore.

[Zangi]

It's faster than it was for the last six months... but it's still awfully slow isn't it?

Slow compared to some other comics, yeah, and Rich doesn't have a regular schedule, and asking 'when is the next comic?' isn't allowed on the forum there.

Usually a breeding ground for senseless arguments and shitposting.

[smjjames]

It's faster than it was for the last six months... but it's still awfully slow isn't it?

Slow compared to some other comics, yeah, and Rich doesn't have a regular schedule, and asking 'when is the next comic?' isn't allowed on the forum there.

Usually a breeding ground for senseless arguments and shitposting.

I can get 'when is the next comic?' being disencouraged, but in general, that forums rules seem pretty restrictive.

[Lord Shonus]

They are very restrictive, and -to make matters worse- they are very shoddily enforced as well. There are plenty of good members of the community, so it is worth visiting, but it would be much better with different rules.

[Rolan7]

Update, which addresses the agreement (well predicted y'all).

Aren't they about to go to a major temple to Thor, a god whose dwarven clerics will likely have ready access to Remove Disease because something like that would send dwarven souls to Hel rather than Thor?

This would also be very good opportunity for Durkon to rub some previously-said exact words back in the face of the vampire spirit.

Of course, this could mean that the crew of the Mechane is doomed.

I don't remember if we know exactly what "Odin and the rest" will do to the offender, but seems like it's serious enough to be a win for Hel.

[Akura]

That's a lot of updates in a short amount of time. Then again, the backdrop for Hel's domain(probably also called Hel) is literally four colors and simple shapes, so that's probably a good time-saver.

[Mathel]

If we go by norse mythology, the domain would be called Helheim.

[scriver]

Nah, Hel is good.

[Dorsidwarf]

Yes, but maybe she'd bank on no longer needing those powers to complete her plan.

I thought Hel was explicitly playing strictly by the book to shame the other gods into honouring the agreement. If she starts breaking the rules, there's no reason for them to honour the agreement either and she might lose all those souls.

[Culise]

Yes, but maybe she'd bank on no longer needing those powers to complete her plan.

I thought Hel was explicitly playing strictly by the book to shame the other gods into honouring the agreement. If she starts breaking the rules, there's no reason for them to honour the agreement either and she might lose all those souls.

Indeed.  For example, the compact is what allows clerics to cast their full range of spells.  Without it, domain restrictions become much more...ah, restrictive.  Given that the entire plan hinges on Durkula being able to dominate the voting elders, if Domination happens to fall under another god's portfolio (f'rex, the manipulative Loki), losing it would be major potential crimp in their game plan.  Moreover, if the rules of the game get thrown out, she may have to worry about the original vote itself being disqualified.  Several of the gods who happened to vote alongside her only did so as a protest vote, as Hermod indicated, or not knowing the full consequences of the act; the "no backsies" rule could easily be next on the chopping block if the compact falls apart, and if that happens, she loses her own voting base.  The plan only works because the rules benefit her right now.  If she breaks the rules, they get to do the same gratis.  If they break the rules first, they get to fall apart in recrimination between the Lawful and Chaotic wings, which keeps them busy while she gets on with the plan.

It helps that the older links above inspired me to reread the whole arc quickly; I had forgotten quite a bit of this in the interim.

EDIT: Actually, scratch that specific spell example. I just checked since it was bothering me, and Dominate Person is not a Cleric spell.  It's a supernatural ability innate to all vampires and is thus unaffected by the compact.  Ah, well, the voting point still stands. 

[Akura]

(f'rex, the manipulative Loki)

Loki's domains are Fire and Trickery. Fire domain is explicitly stated in the same strip we both linked, and as for Trickery, it's Loki.

Nah, Hel is good.

Pretty sure Hel is evil.

Whether she's Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic... I'm guessing Neutral. She's willing to play by the rules as long as the rules are necessary.