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[tahujdt]

I was thinking that, when Nale killed Malack and Durkula saw it, that was the time his spirit would have reasserted itself. However, he BSODed for a few panels: that could have very  well been the time when he was inwardly trying to fight an incursion by evil forces.

However, it may be that he wasn't controlled by Hel's servant until later. Consider the scene where he tries to heal Roy and accidently channels negative energy instead: that does not strike me as the sort of mistake that a Hel(l)ish spirit would make.

[Loud Whispers]

Totally called it. Should have given the D the stake.

[IronyOwl]

Just a thought, but maybe it applies ONLY to unDurkon, and other undeads remain their original selves. Most notably Xykon who crafted a phtlactrlly for this purpose

I thought it was some sort of 'evil thing has taken control. Durkon is still inside, but powerless to do anything'

This would make more sense, but what would make Durkon special, then?

Again, it might be a side effect of the spell that brought Durkon back as a vampire, or possibly from the fact that his thralldom wasn't properly released due to Malack's destruction.

Neither of these sound like they'd summon or spawn an entirely separate entity in control of his body and possession of his soul.

However, it may be that he wasn't controlled by Hel's servant until later. Consider the scene where he tries to heal Roy and accidently channels negative energy instead: that does not strike me as the sort of mistake that a Hel(l)ish spirit would make.

Similarly, what would have happened between then and now to do that?

[My Name is Immaterial]

Just a thought, but maybe it applies ONLY to unDurkon, and other undeads remain their original selves. Most notably Xykon who crafted a phtlactrlly for this purpose

I thought it was some sort of 'evil thing has taken control. Durkon is still inside, but powerless to do anything'

This would make more sense, but what would make Durkon special, then?

He's a PC?

[misko27]

Just a thought, but maybe it applies ONLY to unDurkon, and other undeads remain their original selves. Most notably Xykon who crafted a phtlactrlly for this purpose

I thought it was some sort of 'evil thing has taken control. Durkon is still inside, but powerless to do anything'

This would make more sense, but what would make Durkon special, then?

He's a PC?

GitP forums think Hel had something to do with it.

Maybe the thralldom had something to do with it. Maybe Hel intervened somehow. Whatever the answer is, it better be good; there does seem to be something off about the whole thing.

[MorleyDev]

As I understand it, a typical vampire in order of the stick is an undead being of dark energy, similar to a zombie, but with the memories of the original person. Since they don't have the soul, which it seems is still trapped in the body, they are not the same person because the soul isn't driving. Since the resident god usually doesn't care, they're just a new dark energy being that starts dropped into a load of memories that effectively make them the same person, but evil by nature.

It seems here Hel has taken interest and so given the dark energy being inhabiting a bit of coaching before dispatching it off to possess the body.

Liches remain the same person since they store their soul in the phelasoulthingy, allowing it to control the dark energy fuelled skeleton.

[GiglameshDespair]

Phylactery.

[hops]

Phylactery.

Ia! Ia! Phylactery f'thagn!

[Remuthra]

Phylactery.

Ia! Ia! Phylactery f'thagn!

Mglw'nafl Durkon Hel'yeh fh'tagn!

[Akura]

Any bets on who dies next, when the comic resumes?

My money is on Belkar, then Elan.

Spoiler: Justification (click to show/hide)

Belkar's pre-ordained death should be coming up soon. As for Elan, Julio mentioned he was going to visit Arboria, the Chaotic Good afterlife plane when it's been stated that he's CN. Why? To visit Elan post-mortem, which he knows is going to happen because he knows what happens in a story.

[scriver]

I feel fairly confident in my assessment that Julio only wants to visit Arboria to find some nice nymphy beauties and hang out.

And by hang out I mean sex.

[Akura]

Nymphs are fey, not outsiders, if I recall.

[scriver]

These are fey outsiders

[killerhellhound]

Order of the Stick and the Order of the Stone may foil my evil plan, but Order of the Words will never inconvenience me.

siggy

[Nightscar982]

Technically since they are found in temperate forests, and the entry reads "Medium Fey", they would only be an outsider (with that applied template thingy) whenever they are not on their home plane of residence. You could probably say that since Arborea has temperate forests they could reside there too, I would probably assume that most would live on the material plane and would be native while they were there, and some would live on Arborea and be native to that plane instead. Unless I'm missing some random fey plane in the standard 3.5 cosmology, but idk.

Thats just what I think, anyway, I could be wrong.