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[Helgoland]

New comic!

[Lord Shonus]

Little late on that, I'm afraid.

[Remuthra]

Again?

Damnit, Helgoland! Faking me out with double features.

[Helgoland]

Dammit, why don't you people update the title of the thread accordingly? I was under the impression that the preceding comments were just part of an academic discussion...

[scriver]

An academic discussion that just happened to be about the very same things that were in the recentest comic?

Also, the devil(s) always get their way.

[Helgoland]

You think I noticed that... I'm not exactly sober right now. Not exactly drunk, either, but still.

About Sabine: So she helped in defeating Tarquin, essentially being on the OotS side for now - seemms reasonable. My prediction is that she'll pretty much drop out of the story once he's done for.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's not exactly as if working with Evil beings is outside the OotS experience. 33% of the party is currently Evil, and only 50% is Good. They're one alignment shift away from having no majority faction, or directly split if V goes Evil (admittedly unlikely given current unbearable guilt).

My point is that a long term arrangement between the Order and Sabine is not exactly out of the question, more so if Team Tarquin isn't annihilated. And of course, nobody likes being consigned to eternal oblivion, not even devils.

[RedWarrior0]

I'm late, as usual, again. But Yeah.

[Darvi]

Eh, you'd have to squint real hard to identify Durkula as evil.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Vampires are all inherently Evil beings, no meaningful exceptions. It is literally a part of their physical existence.

[Darvi]

I think I'm not the only one when I say that taking the DnD alignment system as is counts as squinting real hard. Or maybe having bad astigmatism.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

We don't really have enough experience with Durkula's personality, but he does seem pretty ruthless compared to his pre-vampirization self, he claims to be about as evil as Belkar, and oh yeah, his existence is powered by Evil.

[armeggedonCounselor]

This is the second caster fight in the comic that ended a bit anti-climactically. I wonder if this will become a running gag. On the other hand, the first caster fight that ended anti-climactically was pretty boring even before it ended.

[scrdest]

We don't really have enough experience with Durkula's personality, but he does seem pretty ruthless compared to his pre-vampirization self, he claims to be about as evil as Belkar, and oh yeah, his existence is powered by Evil.

It's not even about his morality; I recall an argument that alignments are not descriptors assigned to people who exhibit behavior patterns, but energy forms. So, you can have mindless undead be Evil even when they cannot actually choose between Good and Evil, because their Evil classification is because they are powered by negative energy.

That also explains how you can have Knight Templar paladins remain LG.

Of course, morally evil people and deities are Evil, but that might be explained by the opposing natures of positive and negative energy - Evil hurts Good and heals Evil and vice versa, so entities aiming to destroy or otherwise harm life as-is would be aligned with negative energy because negative energy is what destroys or otherwise harms life.

[RedWarrior0]

I'm pretty sure Rich has stated that Durkon is Evil now. He's a cleric of a concept as well now.