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Lord Shonus

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2760 on: April 17, 2018, 03:57:38 pm »

Chaos Hammer maxes out at 5d8. Neutral characters take half damage, and the spell a Will save for half damage. These stack, so a Neutral character that makes the Will save takes 1/4 damage. A damage range of 5-40 quarters to 1.25-10 damage. This is why V gets out of it with just a few small scratches.

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« Reply #2761 on: April 17, 2018, 04:10:50 pm »

Seems he gets the arm scratch from the vampires slightly going over his damage resistance, and he gets the hash sign on his robe from the hammersplosion.
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« Reply #2762 on: April 17, 2018, 05:10:18 pm »

He's certainly high enough level that it would hurt the vampires way more than it does him, else he wouldn't have willingly used himself as bait.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2763 on: April 17, 2018, 06:00:34 pm »

it kinda hurts him. look at his robe and his face

Robes, being made of woven thread, are all lawfully aligned, though.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2764 on: April 17, 2018, 06:04:58 pm »

Obviously not too much so, or we'd know by now what gender V is.
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« Reply #2765 on: April 17, 2018, 09:00:46 pm »

it kinda hurts him. look at his robe and his face

Robes, being made of woven thread, are all lawfully aligned, though.

How can that be, when cloaks are classic rogue attire?
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« Reply #2766 on: April 17, 2018, 09:04:16 pm »

Pretty sure the only class that has any sort of alignment restriction in DnD 3.x are the paladins.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2767 on: April 17, 2018, 09:10:09 pm »

Bards cannot be lawful, Druids must be some flavor of neutral, and Clerics have to be within a step of their god on each axis.
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« Reply #2768 on: April 17, 2018, 09:12:19 pm »

Barbarians also cannot be lawful, for what that's worth.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2769 on: April 17, 2018, 09:13:42 pm »

Obviously not too much so, or we'd know by now what gender V is.
I thought he was confirmed to be male? Do we actually still not know?

edit: huh
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« Reply #2770 on: April 17, 2018, 09:15:14 pm »

Word Of Giant is that V is genderqueer, IIRC.
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« Reply #2771 on: April 17, 2018, 09:19:00 pm »

I am momentarily confused whenever someone uses "he" for V. It's just pretty ingrained at this point, looks female.
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« Reply #2772 on: April 17, 2018, 09:20:42 pm »

Bards cannot be lawful, Druids must be some flavor of neutral, and Clerics have to be within a step of their god on each axis.
Barbarians also cannot be lawful, for what that's worth.

Forgot about the clerics, and I don't get how bards can't be lawful. Elan is a bard and he seems to be in the lawful good zone, though maybe not strictly lawful because his girlfriend is a chaotic neutral (or maybe good?) rogue.

Obviously not too much so, or we'd know by now what gender V is.
I thought he was confirmed to be male? Do we actually still not know?

edit: huh
Word Of Giant is that V is genderqueer, IIRC.

V is intentionally gender ambigous.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2773 on: April 17, 2018, 09:25:37 pm »

Forgot about the clerics, and I don't get how bards can't be lawful. Elan is a bard and he seems to be in the lawful good zone, though maybe not strictly lawful because his girlfriend is a chaotic neutral (or maybe good?) rogue.

Eh, he's pretty cavalier about stealing things when he's left alone in Cliffport, although he does leave an apology note. I agree that its a strange restriction on the class, but it does fit for Elan.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #2774 on: April 17, 2018, 09:35:09 pm »


Forgot about the clerics, and I don't get how bards can't be lawful. Elan is a bard and he seems to be in the lawful good zone, though maybe not strictly lawful because his girlfriend is a chaotic neutral (or maybe good?) rogue.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/bard.htm

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Any nonlawful.

Elan is canonically Chaotic Good.


http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?324877-Elan-s-Alignment-Heading-South/page2&p=16773002#post16773002

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This. Elan's willingness to accept surrenders before is a result of his alignment, but it is not the only possible interpretation of his alignment. This time, he chose a second, equally Good option. Shifting from one valid interpretation of Chaotic Good to another is not grounds for an alignment change, because there's no such thing as "degrees" of Goodness. You're either Good, or you're not.

For example, Elan doesn't steal from people because he feels bad about it. If he suddenly decides to start stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, he doesn't change alignment at all because he's changed from one way of looking at CG (the Elan way) to another way (the Robin Hood way). It may seem like a huge shift from a character development angle, but alignment-wise, it's all the same.


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V is intentionally gender ambigous.

Found the source. The author's commentary in Blood Runs In The Family

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In this way, Tarquin is also symbolic of an older time when stories were likely to be more formulaic or cliched - and less diverse. It's no accident that he's a wealthy old straight white man losing his marbles over the fact that the tale he is experiencing doesn't focus on the other straight white man at the expense of the black man, the woman, the genderqueer person, and even the Latino guest star.

This probably wasn't the original intention, but the running joke about ambiguous gender provided the perfect solution when the Giant started deliberately making his work more socially conscious. This is one of the reason's V's children are adopted - to leave the possibility that both Parent and Other Parent are both biologically male or female.
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