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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1020 on: October 30, 2014, 01:07:02 pm »

That's a good point. Still, I like his wit.

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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1021 on: October 30, 2014, 03:51:04 pm »

So portions of the dialogue only make sense from a retroactive author's perspective, he has no idea how anything in his own comic works unless he absolutely needs to and even then he's not going to explain it, and vampires are common/famous enough for everyone to know what they are and how they work but also rare/mysterious enough that nobody knows how they work internally, except for that they "go against the natural order of things" even though the reasons why are the things nobody knows about.
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1022 on: October 30, 2014, 08:42:10 pm »

Just egotistical grandstanding from where I'm standing. You don't have to go to twitter every time you do something moral.
Isn't that only one instance? o_O and...not everything moral he did?
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1023 on: October 30, 2014, 09:47:06 pm »

Just egotistical grandstanding from where I'm standing. You don't have to go to twitter every time you do something moral.
Isn't that only one instance? o_O and...not everything moral he did?
It's more of a trend of people doing this sort of thing that annoys me. "Ooh, look at me being so progressive and affirming of LGBTQI+ publicly. I'll make a snappy retort at some bigot and let you the people decide how to react." It's the same vein as all these "97% of people won't repost this..." on Facebook and "Bring on the downvotes, because I say [very popular opinion]" on Reddit.

Everybody who does stuff like this knows going into it the reaction they're going to get. It creates a circlejerk around the subject for being oh so principled. It's done to feed their own egos, both the original poster and everybody who swarms around it.
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1024 on: October 30, 2014, 10:29:11 pm »

Eh. It's a good social trend anyway - it's how you get people internalizing the attitude, anyway. One of the things that perpetuates bigotry is people getting exactly this kind of reinforcement for saying bigoted things, and this is kind of a direct counter to it. I don't particularly care to speculate on his motives, given the increasing trend toward grandstanding in personal interactions in general.
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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« Reply #1025 on: October 31, 2014, 02:09:17 am »

Just egotistical grandstanding from where I'm standing. You don't have to go to twitter every time you do something moral.
Isn't that only one instance? o_O and...not everything moral he did?
It's more of a trend of people doing this sort of thing that annoys me. "Ooh, look at me being so progressive and affirming of LGBTQI+ publicly. I'll make a snappy retort at some bigot and let you the people decide how to react." It's the same vein as all these "97% of people won't repost this..." on Facebook and "Bring on the downvotes, because I say [very popular opinion]" on Reddit.

Everybody who does stuff like this knows going into it the reaction they're going to get. It creates a circlejerk around the subject for being oh so principled. It's done to feed their own egos, both the original poster and everybody who swarms around it.

In this case, the person he was responding to tried to bully his publisher into not publishing OOTS material. Not only that, but he got a huge amount of flak from some of the forum members for "shoving a lesbian into the narrative for the sake of political correctness", with a few of them acting if a female character casually mentioning an ex-girlfriend was "Ooh, look at me being so progressive and affirming of LGBTQI+ publicly." (Can't link to the posts in question, when someone gets in trouble over there the posts get scrubbed.)
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1026 on: November 03, 2014, 06:26:31 am »

That would have been useful information for Rich to include in the Twitter post. It really does come across as a circlejerk.
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1027 on: November 03, 2014, 07:27:41 am »

Just egotistical grandstanding from where I'm standing. You don't have to go to twitter every time you do something moral.
Isn't that only one instance? o_O and...not everything moral he did?
It's more of a trend of people doing this sort of thing that annoys me. "Ooh, look at me being so progressive and affirming of LGBTQI+ publicly. I'll make a snappy retort at some bigot and let you the people decide how to react." It's the same vein as all these "97% of people won't repost this..." on Facebook and "Bring on the downvotes, because I say [very popular opinion]" on Reddit.

Everybody who does stuff like this knows going into it the reaction they're going to get. It creates a circlejerk around the subject for being oh so principled. It's done to feed their own egos, both the original poster and everybody who swarms around it.

In this case, the person he was responding to tried to bully his publisher into not publishing OOTS material. Not only that, but he got a huge amount of flak from some of the forum members for "shoving a lesbian into the narrative for the sake of political correctness", with a few of them acting if a female character casually mentioning an ex-girlfriend was "Ooh, look at me being so progressive and affirming of LGBTQI+ publicly." (Can't link to the posts in question, when someone gets in trouble over there the posts get scrubbed.)
Strange...those forum members are inclined to make unwarranted assumptions as if there was malevolent intent with the dialogue and...the intent in general.

...Or maybe its just me in seeing a single out of the many. I really don't get this 'ooohh, look at {x}' thing >.> Attention grabbing?
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1028 on: November 03, 2014, 08:47:47 am »

That would have been useful information for Rich to include in the Twitter post. It really does come across as a circlejerk.
Dude, it's Twitter. 140 characters. If you're looking for nuance and context, you're in the wrong place.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1029 on: November 09, 2014, 04:43:38 am »

How dare Rich not use Chinese!?!
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1030 on: November 10, 2014, 03:51:57 pm »

New one is up.  So that answers that question.
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1031 on: November 10, 2014, 03:59:52 pm »

New one is up.  So that answers that question.
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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1032 on: November 10, 2014, 04:35:03 pm »

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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1033 on: November 10, 2014, 06:08:37 pm »

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Re: Order of the Stick: 966 About Town
« Reply #1034 on: November 10, 2014, 06:19:22 pm »

If the target doesn't hear the burn does it still burn?
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