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[ShinQuickMan]

Couldn't you just trap her in an ordinary cage, build the artifact cage in the desired location, and then assign her to the artifact cage afterwards?

[AutomataKittay]

Couldn't you just trap her in an ordinary cage, build the artifact cage in the desired location, and then assign her to the artifact cage afterwards?

Dwarves aren't assignable, just unassignable from the cage, that I've found.

Though now I wonder about using justice system for it?

[wierd]

Since you can build the artifact trap as furniture, and then allocate a room, maybe.

However, certain kinds of cages won't get the (j) enabler. Wood for instance, can't be used for justice, nor can a glass terarium.

Personally, I LOVE "bottled goblins", but to each their own.

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

Though now I wonder about using justice system for it?

The problem with that is that her sentence would eventually be up and someone would let her out. Unless you wall her in, but then what's the point of the artifact cage?

apparently artifact cages cannot be used in traps 

Huh. I've never noticed that before. I usually just build any artifact cage I get and use it as a super-valuable zoo. You might have discovered a bug.

[AutomataKittay]

Though now I wonder about using justice system for it?

The problem with that is that her sentence would eventually be up and someone would let her out. Unless you wall her in, but then what's the point of the artifact cage?

apparently artifact cages cannot be used in traps 

Huh. I've never noticed that before. I usually just build any artifact cage I get and use it as a super-valuable zoo. You might have discovered a bug.

I thought I've had dwarves not get let out if I undesignate the cage that was used for justice. It's been a while for me, though! And I imagine the artifact exclusion from cage trap is intentional since it'd have to be coded that way, probably in expectation that player would want to use it for decoration.

[Juxtap0se]

apparently artifact cages cannot be used in traps 

Huh. I've never noticed that before. I usually just build any artifact cage I get and use it as a super-valuable zoo. You might have discovered a bug.

well perhaps we have opportunity to explore here. The base material for the artifact cage is glass. From what I've read, only metal cages can be used for jail (i'm still very new to this game and haven't set any justice up yet in any fort). For any cage trap I've tried, my common glass cages can be used, as well as any wooden ones I have, both in the spot I want and also in miscellaneous spots. The artifact cage cannot be used in any of the same trap spots the other cages work. I can set it up as a stand-alone cage for display. This leads me to believe the artifact cannot be used in any cage trap.
If this is a bug, I understand (although I did have my heart set on a leech in a gilded cage). If this is an undiscovered bug I kinda feel it is my duty to find how it works. Any thoughts/suggestions? Please keep in mind I'm pretty inexperienced at this game.

[DreamCarver]

I guess you could try to buy a hopefully equally awesome cage from a caravan. It wouldn't be an artifact, but from how things look, I doubt you'll ever get her into the one you originally intended. Artifacts are just meant to exist, not be used.

[Snaake]

Related due to vampires/eventual use of the caged dwarf.

I recently had the idea of making a vampire a dedicated undertaker in the fort. I'm just not sure if it's possible to deliver dwarf corpses via minecarts (I seem to recall that they do gather them in corpse stockpiles at least if there aren't any tombs assigned to that dwarf, or empty built coffins). Drop/wall in the vampire in an area with unmined stone, along with a pick and a bed and whatever other furniture you feel like. Might also be a good idea either to give him a small clothing supply or outfit him in leather armor (armor, leggings, high boots). Corpses are delivered via non-pathable minecart route (eg. 1-tile "open space" gap in the track), or dumped in from above (at least manual dumping should definitely work). Have it mine out the catacombs for the burial, and dump in coffins (or have the vampire make the coffins using the stone he mines out) for it to build. The vampire could also smooth out and eventually engrave the catacombs if you want. Of course noble tombs etc. could still be built elsewhere if you want dwarves to be able to admire them.

[AutomataKittay]

Related due to vampires/eventual use of the caged dwarf.

I recently had the idea of making a vampire a dedicated undertaker in the fort. I'm just not sure if it's possible to deliver dwarf corpses via minecarts (I seem to recall that they do gather them in corpse stockpiles at least if there aren't any tombs assigned to that dwarf, or empty built coffins). Drop/wall in the vampire in an area with unmined stone, along with a pick and a bed and whatever other furniture you feel like. Might also be a good idea either to give him a small clothing supply or outfit him in leather armor (armor, leggings, high boots). Corpses are delivered via non-pathable minecart route (eg. 1-tile "open space" gap in the track), or dumped in from above (at least manual dumping should definitely work). Have it mine out the catacombs for the burial, and dump in coffins (or have the vampire make the coffins using the stone he mines out) for it to build. The vampire could also smooth out and eventually engrave the catacombs if you want. Of course noble tombs etc. could still be built elsewhere if you want dwarves to be able to admire them.

Doable, I know dwarves will cartdump their own corpses, I've done it accidentally. I'd recommend using minecart dumping instead of trying to jump the cart through, mostly because it's easier and have less time for them to rot. And yes, leather armor outfit would suit them fine for non-decaying clothings.

Sounds like pretty good idea for self-maintanting catacombs

[Snaake]

Related due to vampires/eventual use of the caged dwarf.

I recently had the idea of making a vampire a dedicated undertaker in the fort. I'm just not sure if it's possible to deliver dwarf corpses via minecarts (I seem to recall that they do gather them in corpse stockpiles at least if there aren't any tombs assigned to that dwarf, or empty built coffins). Drop/wall in the vampire in an area with unmined stone, along with a pick and a bed and whatever other furniture you feel like. Might also be a good idea either to give him a small clothing supply or outfit him in leather armor (armor, leggings, high boots). Corpses are delivered via non-pathable minecart route (eg. 1-tile "open space" gap in the track), or dumped in from above (at least manual dumping should definitely work). Have it mine out the catacombs for the burial, and dump in coffins (or have the vampire make the coffins using the stone he mines out) for it to build. The vampire could also smooth out and eventually engrave the catacombs if you want. Of course noble tombs etc. could still be built elsewhere if you want dwarves to be able to admire them.

Doable, I know dwarves will cartdump their own corpses, I've done it accidentally. I'd recommend using minecart dumping instead of trying to jump the cart through, mostly because it's easier and have less time for them to rot. And yes, leather armor outfit would suit them fine for non-decaying clothings.

Sounds like pretty good idea for self-maintanting catacombs

From what I remember, push orders and a track as follows (S for stop, = tracks, . open space) work just fine:
S=.=S

That really is all the track/route you need, I think. Both stops highest friction, or at least high enough to stop a pushed cart, catacomb stop dumps in some direction (or not, since I guess corpses don't give off miasma while in a minecart?... you'd have to set unload orders in that case, though). Loading stop needs load orders from a (dwarf) corpse stockpile, obviously.

[AutomataKittay]

Related due to vampires/eventual use of the caged dwarf.

I recently had the idea of making a vampire a dedicated undertaker in the fort. I'm just not sure if it's possible to deliver dwarf corpses via minecarts (I seem to recall that they do gather them in corpse stockpiles at least if there aren't any tombs assigned to that dwarf, or empty built coffins). Drop/wall in the vampire in an area with unmined stone, along with a pick and a bed and whatever other furniture you feel like. Might also be a good idea either to give him a small clothing supply or outfit him in leather armor (armor, leggings, high boots). Corpses are delivered via non-pathable minecart route (eg. 1-tile "open space" gap in the track), or dumped in from above (at least manual dumping should definitely work). Have it mine out the catacombs for the burial, and dump in coffins (or have the vampire make the coffins using the stone he mines out) for it to build. The vampire could also smooth out and eventually engrave the catacombs if you want. Of course noble tombs etc. could still be built elsewhere if you want dwarves to be able to admire them.

Doable, I know dwarves will cartdump their own corpses, I've done it accidentally. I'd recommend using minecart dumping instead of trying to jump the cart through, mostly because it's easier and have less time for them to rot. And yes, leather armor outfit would suit them fine for non-decaying clothings.

Sounds like pretty good idea for self-maintanting catacombs

From what I remember, push orders and a track as follows (S for stop, = tracks, . open space) work just fine:
S=.=S

That really is all the track/route you need, I think. Both stops highest friction, or at least high enough to stop a pushed cart, catacomb stop dumps in some direction (or not, since I guess corpses don't give off miasma while in a minecart?... you'd have to set unload orders in that case, though). Loading stop needs load orders from a (dwarf) corpse stockpile, obviously.

Corpses does gives off miasma in minecart, and they still rots, which gives unhappiness hit, which's why I suggest using dump instead of cart jumping. Not that it won't work, but it's not the best method. I uses cart jumps for pretty much any isolated spaces where I can expect things to be barreled or doesn't rots.

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