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[Teneb]

Deathsword, Shakerag, Nerjin, you going to answer Toaster's question? Did any of you get an upgrade last night?

Only one thing happened last night, which I already said: I was blocked.

The following question may seem RVS-y, but this game is not really going anywhere and I need a read:
ZU: If you had replaced another person, and birdy not replaced out, would you have voted him (birdy) based on his play until his last post?

[zombie urist]

No idea its too late for me to answer that question w/o bias.

NQT's straying into IIOA hmm...

Shakerag: Why aren't you worried about being lynched?

[Nerjin]

No idea its too late for me to answer that question w/o bias.

I disagree but whatever.


Sorry for lack of participation this day guys. Lots of stuff has happened.

[webadict]

Hmmm.


WUBA:

Tiruin - Jane Addams
(1-Shot, Mafiakill) Public Health Awareness: All protects become kills. All other actions become protects. All kills go through protects. X-shots used by other players are not used up.

If the effect of this ability changed a one shot from whatever it was to become a protect, would the one-shot still be used up?

No. In that case, the one-shot would not be used up.

[notquitethere]

The only person who hasn't given any kind of account for their night actions last night is... Nerjin. Care to tell us whether you learned anything last night? Also, please answer Toaster's question:

Nerjin, you going to answer Toaster's question? Did any of you get an upgrade last night?

ZU

NQT's straying into IIOA hmm...

That's pretty funny ZU. You ask someone to post a recap of claims and then you passively attack the person who does just that for doing just that. Right now I'm waiting on Nerjin and Shakerag to answer Toaster's question, but in the meanwhile I'll be doing my usual vote analysis, probably in less than an hour's time.

[Nerjin]

I've already told you guys the only ability I have that targets is "Smooth Talk". Pay attention.

[notquitethere]

Deathsword

I have not forgotten. I am thinking about it, revising it, so to speak. Birdy was replaced and I currently going over my case and how he acted and comparing it to ZU's behaviour so far.

Still interested in seeing this. What do you think of ZU's response to your question?

Nerjin
I did pay attention. Checking all your claims, I'm pretty sure you never said it was your only power, it's just the only one you claimed. If The Iqovian was allowed to double vote and had two night actions he could use at the same time, I'm pretty sure you have more than just a vote steal.

[notquitethere]

D3 Vote Analysis

This seemed to work in other games and it correctly pin-pointed Tiruin, so here's my Day 3 aggregate vote breakdown.

# of players targeted minus RVS
2 - Toaster, Deathsword
3 - Sheep, Birdy
4 - Shakerag,
5 - NQT, Nerjin

Let's break that down day-by-day. (All vote counts below omit RVS votes as these aren't indicative of cases or suspicions.)

Spoiler: D1 (click to show/hide)

# of people targeted this day only
0 - TolyK (poor sap died before he could get in and post), Toaster (forgot to vote?)
1 - Tiruin, Birdy, Deathsword, Imp, Sheep, Iqovian, Shakerag, NQT
2 - Hapah, Cheetar
3 - Nerjin

Spoiler: D2 (click to show/hide)

# of people targeted this day only
1 - Tiruin, Toaster, The Iqovian, Sheep
2 - Deathsword,  Imp, Shakerag, Nerjin
3 - Birdy, Cheetar
5 - NQT

# of people targeted for the whole game by this stage
0 - TolyK
1 - Iqovian, Toaster
2 - Tiruin, Hapah, Deathsword, Sheep
3 - Birdy, Imp, Shakerag
4 - Cheetar, Nerjin
5 - NQT

Spoiler: D3 (click to show/hide)

# of people targeted this day only
0 - Birdy/Zu, Deathsword
1 - Nerjin, Shakerag, Sheep, Toaster
2 - NQT

# of people targeted for the whole game by this stage
0 - TolyK (died D1 before he could get in and post again)
1 - Iqovian (stopped playing)
2 - Toaster, Deathsword, Hapah (died N1), Tiruin
3 - Sheep, Birdy/ZU, Imp
4 - Shakerag, Cheetar
5 - NQT, Nerjin

So, this method is pretty good at spotting good town (they tend to place high in suspicions), scum and newbish town (they have low suspicion counts). You can see that The Iqovian had much the same vote-profile as Tiruin, but that's to be expected given his low participation. It's pretty lousy as spotting 3rd party, who are often quite active when competent (like Imp and Cheetar). Given that Griff was also a third party, we've probably eliminated all of them from the game, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.

So what's the upshot? Well, I'll exclude myself as I'm the only one who takes this seriously and could have deliberately tried to game it. That leaves Nerjin with the towniest profile, followed by Shakerag, Sheep and Birdy/Zu, with Toaster and Deathsword coming up the rear. Toaster didn't vote at all on Day 1 and Deathsword (as well as Birdy/ZU) haven't voted at all today despite the Day almost ending on Wednesday.


Nerjin, You say you don't have any night abilities. It's questionable but not impossible. I guess you've got some autos and a one-shot you don't want to talk about. By my analysis you're the least suspicious, so I'm unvoting.

Deathsword, ZU— the day almost ended and you didn't care to cast a vote. If this was D1 we might let it slide, but this is potentially LYLO. What gives?

Toaster— the only person who hasn't claimed having an upgrade is Shakerag. Could Imp or Tiruin have got it? what were you doing upgrading random strangers that could be scum? This only really makes sense if you knew the alignment of who you were targeting. Also, you've consistently had the lowest suspicion-count in the game, not voting day 1, only voting Cheetar on day 2, and now just following Sheep's vote today. I know you explained about Day 1: care to explain the rest?

Sheep Do you have a case on Shakerag now given the strong possibility that your investigation was made useless by Imp's one-shot? Are you sticking to it out of inertia? I note that you've thus far only formed one case per day on a person.

Shakerag— I know we probably won't see you until Monday, but when you appear I would like a response to this. You say there hasn't been much discussion and yet when you post you don't discuss.

[Teneb]

No idea its too late for me to answer that question w/o bias.

NQT's straying into IIOA hmm...

Shakerag: Why aren't you worried about being lynched?

Why is it too late, ZU? Can't you answer, with or without bias? This seems a lazy way to say "I don't want to answer that". If you think NQT is straying into IIOA (could somone actually tell me what the acronym stands for, I can't remember), why are you doing nothing but pointing it out?

Deathsword, ZU— the day almost ended and you didn't care to cast a vote. If this was D1 we might let it slide, but this is potentially LYLO. What gives?

I didn't want to throw my vote around and accidentaly cause a hammer, especially if I wasn't convinced whomever I was voting is scum. This just changed, of course.

[zombie urist]

Because I already know my role info.

NQT: I didn't bother because I'm getting smooth-talked so I have no vote anyways.

[notquitethere]

NQT: I didn't bother because I'm getting smooth-talked so I have no vote anyways.

Oh... in that case...

Nerjin, why are specifically still stealing ZU's vote but you're not voting them? You're implying they're scummy enough to warrant no vote but not trying to get them lynched. How does that make sense?

[Nerjin]

Nerjin, why are specifically still stealing ZU's vote but you're not voting them? You're implying they're scummy enough to warrant no vote but not trying to get them lynched. How does that make sense?

... I'm not using Smooth-Talk right now. Unvote

ZU why are you lying?

[Toaster]

Hmmm.


WUBA:

Tiruin - Jane Addams
(1-Shot, Mafiakill) Public Health Awareness: All protects become kills. All other actions become protects. All kills go through protects. X-shots used by other players are not used up.

If the effect of this ability changed a one shot from whatever it was to become a protect, would the one-shot still be used up?

No. In that case, the one-shot would not be used up.

Okay.  This means Cheeetar would have been able to back up up his King claim, if we assume he was trying to king Birdy N1.

Now.


Nerjin:

I've already told you guys the only ability I have that targets is "Smooth Talk". Pay attention.

This doesn't actually answer the question.  Did any of your abilities get upgraded?


NQT:

Toaster— the only person who hasn't claimed having an upgrade is Shakerag. Could Imp or Tiruin have got it? what were you doing upgrading random strangers that could be scum? This only really makes sense if you knew the alignment of who you were targeting. Also, you've consistently had the lowest suspicion-count in the game, not voting day 1, only voting Cheetar on day 2, and now just following Sheep's vote today. I know you explained about Day 1: care to explain the rest?

Not really.  D2 Cheeetar was my primary suspect all day, and today has been driven by both the cop claim and the fear of randomization.  Unless I have a good reason to do so or changing information, I'm not going to move my vote around just to look good in your vote count.

[Teneb]

Because I already know my role info

And how does this stop you from judging a player by his actions? I asked you if you would vote birdy based solely on how he acted, regardless of what his aligment or role was. You seem incapable of answering this question.

[zombie urist]

I am incapable of answering the question because I know the basis for his actions so I can't judge his actions on their own.

... I'm not using Smooth-Talk right now. Unvote
ZU why are you lying?

I didn't lie, I just didn't know that.

In that case I'll vote Shakerag because of the inspect result and because of all the interactions Tiruin had with the remaining players I think they were buddies.