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[birdy51]

I think we both got it wrong actually.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ockham%27s_Razor

[Tiruin]

Goodgods. Occam's Razor! It's following the simplest solution in the presence of a problem, to say bluntly.

On the note of that. Nerjin using birdy's vote (against him, to be specific) details quite a lot on him. Nerjin: You're DARN sure he's scum, aye? What made you think so? From where did you begin suspecting him?

I will have a lot to browse through tomorrow. >_<

PPE: That's..exactly the basic premise of the razor.

[Tiruin]

Blargh. Ok, pressured here. How long until final day end?!

[Cheeetar]

Blargh. Ok, pressured here. How long until final day end?!

26 minute and counting! Quickly, read all the posts! Hurry! Hurry!

[Nerjin]

He is my second scum pick and the way he voted me with no real reasoning cemented that. I would not have used this power so early if I were not certain of it.

That said Extend you people better use it this time if it comes around.

I don't know if I'm able to switch vote targets honestly. I'll ask Web.

Is pretty color on black background

@Tiriun: I've stated my case on Birdy AND Iqovian several times. Check my postraveganzas for more detail if you'd like.

[Imp]

If any two players switch from Birdy to TolyK and -no one else- votes for Birdy -  then TolyK will be the lynch.

Even if Nerjin cannot move his stolen vote, I expect Nerjin can still move his own vote.

Cheeetar has said he'd rather see a TolyK lynch now than a Birdy lynch.  Cheeetar's currently voting Birdy.  If a second person, already voting for Birdy or not votes TolyK, then Birdy lives and TolyK dies today.

Because Birdy has 4 votes, and TolyK 2.  If Birdy loses Cheeetar, who switches to TolyK, that ties the votes, both have 3.  Any other person voting for TolyK takes TolyK to 4, even if that vote doesn't come from Birdy's count.

[Tiruin]

Dammit. I can't analyze that fast! Read it, sure. Fine. Probably. 26 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME AHAHAHAHA
^Greeaaat...

TolyK. I can't (..as in, didn't check deeply back) to wonder on why the whole fight drills down to one or the other. My notes on the occurrence in itself would state that Nerjin is either sure birdy should die-wherein said context would lie on the best probably idea: 'He's scum and I'm SURE of it' or Nerjin is a lyncher with a double vote.

GIVEN birdy's last words (presumably) I don't detect any sort of plea or appeal to emotions. I detect sincerity along his side on the 'if I die...' prospect on aiding town. Sure, I don't know if he's town or not, but his plea is. . .too innocent(?) to sound like either scum/third-party giving up and all that other stuff on veiled suspicion and such.

Nerjin's smooth talking. Ok this is when he said his point and ability. Probably a fake-name claim because having a bluff skill that high would..convince the target to vote himself in remorse? Uh, ok. Most probably a fake-name given the context of smooth talking (him losing a vote, nerjin GAINING a vote? That ISN'T smooth-talking.)
birdy's claim. Interesting. A claim on an inspect, with a newscaster as a premise. Probably an appeal to efficiency given how inspects are mostly always a convincing tool (yeah I'm biased because of that ONE GAME Witches Coven). While the context of inspects differ there from here, the difference is he withheld claiming it in exacts. Why would someone do this in lieu of death? Because its real, is the best logical answer to be had.

...And as I'm reading back I find that Nerjin's voting Birdy because he wants to avoid a tie, of all primary reasons. Is that you suspect him, a lesser priority for you to note that Nerjin? Blargh this. I'm typing my thoughts out at 60wpm.

But the scumminess remains. He's your second scum pick. What about REINFORCING THE CASE ON YOUR FIRST?! That came off to me as an excuse given some kind of veiled motive there. It's a strong move, but...confusing given how you explained it. What it seems to me: Double voter uses power to hit secondary target instead of getting primary suspect on the line. Reason: Wasting time(?). How is that possible when people can ask for extends or debate about the matter?
If so, then that's a really risky move as scum to do as it..levels quite a lot of suspicion on you. Something else is there with you Nerjin, but its vague as far as I can see.

[Cheeetar]

Unvote Birdy51, vote TolyK.
Here's hoping I'm not majorly screwing up with the last minute revision to my vote.

[Nerjin]

You fucker!

Tolyk, Tolyk

No ties!

[Cheeetar]

Nerjin's smooth talking. Ok this is when he said his point and ability. Probably a fake-name claim because having a bluff skill that high would..convince the target to vote himself in remorse? Uh, ok. Most probably a fake-name given the context of smooth talking (him losing a vote, nerjin GAINING a vote? That ISN'T smooth-talking.)

I think smooth-talking is persuading somebody to vote for somebody else. I don't think Nerjin mentioned that they had to vote for themselves, only that they had to be voting for him for him to be able to change the vote.

[Nerjin]

I can ABSOLUTELY not fucking believe the two of you! You'd tie up the vote this close to day end when most people won't be able to react to it!? What the hell!? WHAT IS YOUR REASONING FOR THIS!?

[Imp]

I think our work this day is done, other than watching for any other last moment changes that anyone might do.  Thank you all for supporting my suspicion, I do hope we have lynched Scum this day...


Nerjin, Thanks but it's safe - vote count stands like this now (assuming you cannot move your stolen vote:

2 votes birdy51 - TheWetSheep, Nerjin
5 votes TolyK - Shakerag, Imp, Tiruin, Cheeetar, Nerjin

Before it was 3 to 4, still a somewhat safe clear lynch.

[Cheeetar]

You fucker!

Tolyk, Tolyk

No ties!

It wouldn't've tied anyway. Before you changed your votes, it was 3 on Birdy and 4 on Toly.

[birdy51]

In today's news, local village idiot escapes lynch. Holy crap. More news at 11.

[Tiruin]

APPEND:
Justified anger Nerjin. That isn't good. However the context follows the notion of...inactivity being Birdy's reason? Seriously? Ignoring other snaps at other people and focusing the viewpoint on Nerjin and birdy..I find it weird how you see birdy, N. As your posts preceeding the note and vote on him are mostly on other people. This post addresses the current target, on a question that is mostly trivial - rude to have left unanswered, yes, but still, it doesn't connect him to being scum in that context.

“Why did you ask Cheetar if he was satisfied with his role?”

The quote dictates the question as far as I see it, and I don't or can't see any kind of detail linking birdy with scum on that kind of note. Which seems more like a query out of RVS and curiosity than note. Granted, I also note some kind of anger--RL affecting your current state, as my best guess--in posts noted on you. Iqovian's post seems to also have upset you.

Though I apologize on the note I have given here. It won't occur during today, I fear. Though i am able to play-my reason being that if I do make a replacement, it would just make the game harder on for everyone combined.

CLARIFYING:

TolyK, Tiruin, Toaster— lurker tracker says you three still aren't voting. Day ends today and you haven't even committed to a case yet? If you have an ability which precludes you from voting then just say and tell us who you would have picked.

I have no restrictions on my profile at all, or anything which precludes me from doing such and such. It is RL.
PPE: 7 replies?!

You fucker!

Tolyk, Tolyk

No ties!

...Bloody hell. Wh. Why. What.

In today's news, local village idiot escapes lynch. Holy crap. More news at 11.

...?!What?! You're a village idiot?!