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Shujaa

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How does cooking work?
« on: August 19, 2006, 11:58:00 am »

Dwarves seem to be happy enough eating raw veggies, raw fish (after cleaning) etc.

Do cooked meals have an advantage over uncooked? Do they spoil if no one eats them? Will I still get seeds from eating cooked vegetables? I don't wanna have to babysit their meal times.

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2006, 12:04:00 pm »

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Originally posted by Shujaa:
<STRONG>Dwarves seem to be happy enough eating raw veggies, raw fish (after cleaning) etc.

Do cooked meals have an advantage over uncooked? Do they spoil if no one eats them? Will I still get seeds from eating cooked vegetables? I don't wanna have to babysit their meal times.</STRONG>



You build a kitchen and assign cooks to "prepare meal" Prepared meals have an advatage over regular food in the following ways:
1. The food is more enjoyable to eat and makes the dwarves happy
2. Each dwarf has invidvidual tastes ( some like cougar meat, some like turtle meat, etc ), so mixing foods together with cooking makes dwarves more likely to find foods that they prefer... I think?

I don't think you get seeds from cooked vegitables. If you are concerned about running out, then disable that particular plant from the cooking menu.

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2006, 12:44:00 pm »

You lose any plump helmet spawn, so don't cook them. I wish Toady would get that fixed, seeing as brewing cave wheat produced both beer and seeds. Although it may be a tad more complicated, as foods are mixed rather than just converted.
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Shujaa

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2006, 12:49:00 pm »

What happens to a cooked meal when no one is hungry? Do they rot?
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Gedsaro

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2006, 01:06:00 pm »

Are cooked meals more efficient? (ie. does preparing a meal get you a pice or two more out of it then you put in? or is it just that they like it better?)
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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2006, 01:25:00 pm »

I did a test about 2 versions ago, and the dwarves ran out of food at almost exactly the same time.  The comparison was between no cooking at all, and 2 kitchens running constantly with 5+6+7 points spent on each cook ("Competent").  No fishing or farming or any food production to muddy up the comparisons.  So my conclusion was cooking didn't add any actual food value.
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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2006, 02:44:00 pm »

unless you're cooking a bunch of seeds you've collected, which the dwarves won't eat otherwise.
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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2006, 02:58:00 pm »

not entirely sure there's any point in cleaning fish...

started with some cave fish/turtle/lobster.

they either get eaten raw... leaving shells (bones?) or cooked.. (not sure if shells/bones are left) without going through the fishery

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maybe the fishery should be used to breed fishes instead?

[ August 19, 2006: Message edited by: bbb ]

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2006, 04:20:00 pm »

Raw lobster and turtles aren't eaten when raw and uncleaned.  If they are, it's a bug.  However, they *can* be eaten just fine when they're uncooked, if they've been cleaned: dwarves are the sushi experts of the land.

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Solara

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2006, 05:04:00 pm »

I always assumed cooking was a way to stretch food out.  :( I don't think I'll bother with a kitchen anymore if I could have the dwarf that's working there fishing or hunting instead...
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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2006, 05:07:00 pm »

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<STRONG>I always assumed cooking was a way to stretch food out.   :( I don't think I'll bother with a kitchen anymore if I could have the dwarf that's working there fishing or hunting instead...</STRONG>
It is, you just have to cook items that are inedible otherwise-- usually seeds.
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Gedsaro

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2006, 05:09:00 pm »

But with seeds come plants!
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Slime

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2006, 05:09:00 pm »

If you have enough food, as I do, or a LOT of spare seeds, you can cook them up.

Plus, one plant makes 5 units of alcohol. Alcohol+food = Biscuits. I think you get more units of food than what you put in, as the alcohol is converted.

Edit: Also, if you're low on food but have lots of seeds and it is winter, it may be worth cooking up the seeds.

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Solara

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2006, 05:10:00 pm »

Yes, but those precious seeds are for planting next spring! I guess it's good that they're cookable as a last resort though.

Which brings up another question...I've got like 10 prickleberry seeds and a couple of longland grass seeds, but never get an option to plant them. I guess they're one of those wussy little plants that require sunlight and there's no point in hanging on to them?

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Re: How does cooking work?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2006, 05:20:00 pm »

Cooked meals never rot. This cannot be stated enough.
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