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[Ghazkull]

While indeeed a Outpost will defend our Systems it will not recapture them.First Priority are still Forgeworlds, Second Priority Shipyards and Garrisons, Third Priority are Outposts.

Anyhow if no more questions are there i will close the Council Meeting.

[Leafsnail]

"Outposts also distract our engineers, who should instead be working on expanding our fleet.

On that note, it would be best if we could broker a deal to build an extra shipyard before ending this meeting.  If the Axar Coalition, House Ka'al and Carrowspiel could arrive at some kind of agreement then I believe they would have the resources to construct one between them.

It would be best if the three houses could share the benefits of the resulting shipyard."

[GreatWyrmGold]

"I believe that such an arrangement would be ideal. I would be willing to use Plug for that cause."

[Ghazkull]

For the moment, i will not grant anymore Shipyard Worlds, for all the fleets we need, we first need enough Supplies to move them in the first place.

[GreatWyrmGold]

"Fair enough, Emperor."

[Weirdsound]

Vinci shakes his heavy metallic head, and plays audio to simulate a human sigh. "House Carrowspiel firmly rejects the argument that shipyards surpass forgeworlds in priority. Let that be made clear. We do however require experts of all sorts for our own projects. The engineers house Dapperon entrusted me with may be made available, but only if the Cluster gets the better end of the swap."

The Oni's eyes flicker for a bit while he processes the math and the other faction's resources. "We would trade our three engineers to house Ka'al in exchange for all five experts their territory yields next quarter, or any six experts to be delilvered by the end of the year. We would offer the same to the Axarites in exchange for three of their psi experts now, plus an additional two experts of their choice to be delivered next quarter."

Vinci drums his fingers on his holopad and considers. "We would also sell them to the Hyssisian Territories at a similiar price, should they want to purchase them and see them properly distributed. I mean no disrespect, and would like to register that this disagreement with our Oni Brethren is political, strategic, but my no means personal. I must insist on bringing a profit in experts to the sector I have been tasked to protect, and if I can't do that I feel the engineers we will be better served building forge-worlds in their own backyard."

Fake Edit: Or I can get Ninja'd by the emperor.
Also, you didn't note I was sending my full 5 Intelligence to the Empire

[GreatWyrmGold]

"The representative from House Carrospiel has made me an offer in private. For simplicity, I will simply replay what he sent me."

Vinci Carrospiel opens a quick personal link with the leader of the Pra'Grue. "The emperor just nixed shipyards in favor of forgeworlds. Since the fleet wont be able to protect my quadrant for some time, I would like to see that our next forge is hidden on a fledgling colony the Conclave wont know about. Since they wont be going to any shipyards any time soon, would you be willing to consider sending your 3 Psionics to the cluster? The houses of my quadrant are pooling resources, and we could launch colonists right away with your help."

The Oni Frowns. "I could get house Visarian to send you some military specialists, but I doubt you are terribly intrested in those. Would you be willing to send them now, and arrange a payment next quarter after more experts are produced?"

...

I just don't care to distress our dear friends over at the Hyssisian Territory table over the fact that we are putting so many resources into a forge world. Why, I'd half expect their leader to short out in exasperation if he found that psi experts were aiding a cause other than shipyard construction. If you wish to bring this to public channels however, I will not object."

"I believe that such a Forgeworld could help us significantly. However, I would prefer if such an agreement was made in public, and--as with the Psions sent to House Jade Wraith--if I received some form of compensation."

[Leafsnail]

The representative frowns.

"I don't suppose I can convince you at this point, but I believe you are making a fundamental error.  Building a forge world would allow us to use two extra land-based armies, while building a shipyard would give us 3 ships at the cost temporarily losing the use of one land army.  Further, Forge Worlds are best suited to producing expects in the field of labour efficiency - and while these are important, we already have a glut of such individuals.

Furthermore, while I agree with the principle of valuable hidden worlds, hiding a forgeworld seems counterproductive.  To me it seems that our shipyards are the most tempting targets as they would allow our enemy to increase their numerical advantage in space, and thus strike at our planets with impunity."

He makes a last appeal to the council, before sighing and putting down his ever-consulted copy of The Science of Warfare (Hyssis, 455 I.R, Supreme Publishing).

[GreatWyrmGold]

"True enough. However, I am uncertain of if I could successfully mount an attempt to create a shipyard...and, moreover, the Emperor has clearly stated that he would not allow them."

[Rolepgeek]

"Forgeworlds may be used to supply either armies or naval fleets, rather than simply having more of one or the other. If we wish for naval superiority, then I would again suggest Outposts, as they would grant as large of an advantage as 3 Motherships, and require no supplies. Granted,mthey are not a priority, I understand, but I would not say Shipyards should be either. I would suggest the construction of Intelligence Centers, as knowledge is the key to any victory; besides, the Psions they train will allow for the steady creation of Shipyards, which in turn produce the Engineers needed for the building of Forgeworlds and Ouposts." BakRij shook his head quickly, shaking out some of the liquid build up on his neck and face. "And once we have several of those built, Garrisons and 'Public Affairs Offices' will be needed to supplement the diminishing troop count and to combat any thoughts of rebellions by those who view the Conclave as anything more than rabble to be crushed."

[Weirdsound]

Vinci drums his fingers on his arm. "Hrmm... Wise words from house Dapperon. Almost makes me wish to look into intelligence centers instead of forge worlds... but whatever is built in the cluster should be built in a hidden place until we know the fleet can protect it. My own Dynasty has formed a resource pooling and joint development agreement with Houses Dapperon and Visarian, in which we alternate building up new hidden worlds on each other's behalf. Should the other houses involved find the deal agreeable, I propose the following..."

House Ka'al sends 3 Psions to House Carrowspiel now...
House Visarian sends 3 Military Experts to House Carrowspiel now as part of the joint development plan...

House Carrowspiel launches a colony ship...

During the early phase of the next quarter House Visarian and House Dapperon each send one expert to house Ka'al.
During the early phase of the next quarter, House Carrowspiel sends 2 experts to house Ka'al.

[GreatWyrmGold]

House Ka'al sends 3 Psions to House Carrowspiel now...

Hold on, what?

[Weirdsound]

(The terms of deal I'm proposing. Oh. Thats bold..)

Fixed the bold.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Ah, a mistake. I don't have to reject it. Good.

"I would accept that plan."

[monk12]

Kyros Toron nods at the words of BakRij Dappernon. "In order to continue constructing additional Shipyards, the Empire needs a reliable source of Psions. Thus, in order to support our prioritized construction we will need additional Intelligence Hubs to train new Psions. As Darkwatcher of the Empire, I humbly suggest that House Toron is a natural fit for a Hub. After all, we already donate our entire Intelligence supply to the Empire, and we already have the Military specialists necessary for the construction of the Hub; all we need are the Psions."

His mouth quirks in a grin at Vinci Carrowspiel's words. "I find it interesting that you would openly plot to colonize worlds hidden from the view of the Emperor's justice. But I suppose if you think the best use of our limited resources is to try and hide from the Conclave, that is your own business."