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You, you lazy bastard of a GM!

[Xantalos]

...IT IS NOT FUCKING ETHNIC CLEANSING. I WANT TO REMOVE THE VENOM, STOP THRALLMAKING AND REMOVE THE BLOODTHIRST. THAT IS ALL.

Vampires are an ethnic group.

You are talking about cleansing them.

it is by definition ethnic cleansing.

...
To put in a milder voice into this debate ...what if he makes it voluntary? If a vampire feels they don't want to have to drink blood and stuff any longer, then they can undergo the treatment. If not, not. Like a vasectomy or something.

[ragnarok97071]

...IT IS NOT FUCKING ETHNIC CLEANSING. I WANT TO REMOVE THE VENOM, STOP THRALLMAKING AND REMOVE THE BLOODTHIRST. THAT IS ALL.

Vampires are an ethnic group.

You are talking about cleansing them.

it is by definition ethnic cleansing.

...
To put in a milder voice into this debate ...what if he makes it voluntary? If a vampire feels they don't want to have to drink blood and stuff any longer, then they can undergo the treatment. If not, not. Like a vasectomy or something.

Well, it'll never work, as if there's a cure it loses a lot of the narrative drama, but I guess if he roleplayed it well enough and it actually made narrative sense... He'd still have to make a new cure for each individual court since they're unrelated but similar polymorphic phenotypes, but yeah that'd be much less pissed-making.

[Gamerlord]

*twitch*
It really isn't. How are vampires an ethnic group when you said earlier that blood mages created them?

EDIT: Xantalos, that's a good idea. Especially since any vampire who declines is by definition evil.

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

[ragnarok97071]

*twitch*
It really isn't. How are vampires an ethnic group when you said earlier that blood mages created them?

EDIT: Xantalos, that's a good idea. Especially since any vampire who declines is by definition evil.

The Pearl Court were.

And in the same way the nietzcheans are. Genetically modified, still a distinct sociocultural group.

There are HUNDREDS of different Courts, each with their own origin and specific effects. that seems to be something you keep FUCKING FORGETTING.

[Gamerlord]

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

Still relevant. If a cure to the bloodthirst and especially the removal of the venom is offered there is no moral recourse to reject it.

[Xantalos]

...IT IS NOT FUCKING ETHNIC CLEANSING. I WANT TO REMOVE THE VENOM, STOP THRALLMAKING AND REMOVE THE BLOODTHIRST. THAT IS ALL.

Vampires are an ethnic group.

You are talking about cleansing them.

it is by definition ethnic cleansing.

...
To put in a milder voice into this debate ...what if he makes it voluntary? If a vampire feels they don't want to have to drink blood and stuff any longer, then they can undergo the treatment. If not, not. Like a vasectomy or something.

Well, it'll never work, as if there's a cure it loses a lot of the narrative drama, but I guess if he roleplayed it well enough and it actually made narrative sense... He'd still have to make a new cure for each individual court since they're unrelated but similar polymorphic phenotypes, but yeah that'd be much less pissed-making.

See? Repeating exactly the same thing as one person said in a calmer tone instantly takes the heat of the argument down a billion percent.
Anyhow none of this is relevant because Vornar is 8.

*twitch*
It really isn't. How are vampires an ethnic group when you said earlier that blood mages created them?

EDIT: Xantalos, that's a good idea. Especially since any vampire who declines is by definition evil.

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

...I don't quite get you, but I'm tired. Night, guys. Please don't kill each other while I'm out.

[ragnarok97071]

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

Or in the case of the pearl court, the only one you have actual experience with, 'The last time a blood mage fucked with my people HE MADE US A CLAN OF BLOODTHIRSTY CANNIBALS, trusting another of the fuckwits to help us is a HORRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.'

[Gamerlord]

Look, if someone can give me a proper moral explanation for a vampire refusing to have the Venom and Bloodthirst removed, I'll drop it. But until then, I will go ahead with my plans if I can.

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

Or in the case of the pearl court, the only one you have actual experience with, 'The last time a blood mage fucked with my people HE MADE US A CLAN OF BLOODTHIRSTY CANNIBALS, trusting another of the fuckwits to help us is a HORRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.'

Thats... xenophobia, I think? Not sure. Something like that anyway. Wait a second. Vampires did not always drink blood?

[Xantalos]

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

Or in the case of the pearl court, the only one you have actual experience with, 'The last time a blood mage fucked with my people HE MADE US A CLAN OF BLOODTHIRSTY CANNIBALS, trusting another of the fuckwits to help us is a HORRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.'

Wait, the Pearl Court didn't have to drink blood before whatever the blood Mage did?
This opens up whole new worlds of possibilities.

[ragnarok97071]

Look, if someone can give me a proper moral explanation for a vampire refusing to have the Venom and Bloodthirst removed, I'll drop it. But until then, I will go ahead with my plans if I can.

EDITEDIT: Because, if they don't they're saying "I like drinking blood and putting people at risk!"

Or in the case of the pearl court, the only one you have actual experience with, 'The last time a blood mage fucked with my people HE MADE US A CLAN OF BLOODTHIRSTY CANNIBALS, trusting another of the fuckwits to help us is a HORRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.'

Thats... xenophobia, I think? Not sure. Something like that anyway. Wait a second. Vampires did not always drink blood?

Ask Nikki. Oh wait, you won't do that because she's a monster. *eyeroll* Spoilers.

[Gamerlord]

Um. I was asking about that kinda stuff. If I remember correctly, she acted like a little bitch and refused to tell me anything LONG before the whole thing blew up.

[Xantalos]

Well, Darnos'll do that when he gets back or something. I could have THE do it but honestly it has no real reason to.

[ragnarok97071]

Um. I was asking about that kinda stuff. If I remember correctly, she acted like a little bitch and refused to tell me anything LONG before the whole thing blew up.

... True enough she also has a thing against blood mages due to the whole bloodthirsty cannibal-making thing.

[Gamerlord]

I was actually considering making Vornar into a 'super vampire' until that went to hell.

EDIT: As in, no bloodlust, no weaknesses, just the upsides.

[Xantalos]

Um. I was asking about that kinda stuff. If I remember correctly, she acted like a little bitch and refused to tell me anything LONG before the whole thing blew up.

... True enough she also has a thing against blood mages due to the whole bloodthirsty cannibal-making thing.

Which is inevitably something that being super diplomatic can accomplish.