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[wierd]

A random thought enters my mind.

Giant Creature mod raw + Domestic Housecat entity == "Giant housecat"?

[itg]

He likes battle axes. Don't pass up an opportunity for a guaranteed candy superweapon (instead of a wiffle bat hammer or mace).

[Sutremaine]

Elves have actually loosened up over time. Back in 2D they wouldn't accept animal products.

But then you can't eat the kitty!

Well, you wouldn't be able to eat a pet anyway, unless you had something to raise the corpse into an unowned undead that could be butchered upon (re)death.

Cats are not a huge problem as long as you kill all females. Don't buy any off the caravan, and deal with any migrating pets or strays within three seasons.

Another alternative is to leave male cats with the adoptive behaviour, and make female cats into regular pets. Migrants can still arrive with them, but strays won't attach themselves to dwarves. You could also leave both males and females with their adoptive behaviours and make cats into egg-layers, but at that point you might as well make falcons into domestic animals. Or you could make your existing cats into falcons -- I think you can change all the relevant tokens in a running game. (The ID of the animal would remain the same, but the characteristics of the animal attached to that ID would change.)

[SixOfSpades]

Actually, his fondness for fine pewter is an asset--in my experience, when a weapon or armorsmith likes a metal that can be used for those purposes, they will insist on nothing else. Let's say Aban likes copper, and you have both copper and steel in your fort, and you {forbid} all the copper to make him use steel. No dice--even though the copper is forbidden, he knows you still have some, and will stubbornly sit at his forge until you unforbid the copper, or until he goes insane. But since pewter is not weapons-grade, he will ignore that process, so when he gets his mood, you can force the material of your choice, simply by forbidding everything else.

Smiths that like non-weapons-grade metals: Good for artifacts.
Smiths that like weapons-grade metals: Good for regular items made of those specific metals.

As for cats, limiting the breeding females to 1 or 2 is indeed the best solution. Just watch for the "has given birth to kittens" announcements, and make sure that youre butchers aren't too busy with hauling.

[Drazinononda]

Actually, his fondness for fine pewter is an asset--in my experience, when a weapon or armorsmith likes a metal that can be used for those purposes, they will insist on nothing else. Let's say Aban likes copper, and you have both copper and steel in your fort, and you {forbid} all the copper to make him use steel. No dice--even though the copper is forbidden, he knows you still have some, and will stubbornly sit at his forge until you unforbid the copper, or until he goes insane. But since pewter is not weapons-grade, he will ignore that process, so when he gets his mood, you can force the material of your choice, simply by forbidding everything else.

Smiths that like non-weapons-grade metals: Good for artifacts.
Smiths that like weapons-grade metals: Good for regular items made of those specific metals.

Moody dwarves have never respected "weapons-grade" for making artifacts. Or have you not seen the cancer of "how good is an artifact rope reed fiber sword?" and "should I equip an artifact wax breastplate to my favorite soldier?" and other such posts?

Of course I exaggerate. Nonetheless, it's quite common for people to force things like platinum war hammers or gold maces, and those things are indeed possible. The potential smith would have no qualms about making a fine pewter sword or some such just because it's not "weapons-grade." He won't make any 'soft' items from it, gloves or socks or whatever, but anything that can normally be made from any category of metal (and some things that can't) are fair game.

[enolate]

Actually, his fondness for fine pewter is an asset--in my experience, when a weapon or armorsmith likes a metal that can be used for those purposes, they will insist on nothing else. Let's say Aban likes copper, and you have both copper and steel in your fort, and you {forbid} all the copper to make him use steel. No dice--even though the copper is forbidden, he knows you still have some, and will stubbornly sit at his forge until you unforbid the copper, or until he goes insane. But since pewter is not weapons-grade, he will ignore that process, so when he gets his mood, you can force the material of your choice, simply by forbidding everything else.

Smiths that like non-weapons-grade metals: Good for artifacts.
Smiths that like weapons-grade metals: Good for regular items made of those specific metals.

Moody dwarves have never respected "weapons-grade" for making artifacts. Or have you not seen the cancer of "how good is an artifact rope reed fiber sword?" and "should I equip an artifact wax breastplate to my favorite soldier?" and other such posts?

Of course I exaggerate. Nonetheless, it's quite common for people to force things like platinum war hammers or gold maces, and those things are indeed possible. The potential smith would have no qualms about making a fine pewter sword or some such just because it's not "weapons-grade." He won't make any 'soft' items from it, gloves or socks or whatever, but anything that can normally be made from any category of metal (and some things that can't) are fair game.

Don't smelt pewter and you should be fine. What use is pewter anyway?

[skyte100]

Actually, his fondness for fine pewter is an asset--in my experience, when a weapon or armorsmith likes a metal that can be used for those purposes, they will insist on nothing else. Let's say Aban likes copper, and you have both copper and steel in your fort, and you {forbid} all the copper to make him use steel. No dice--even though the copper is forbidden, he knows you still have some, and will stubbornly sit at his forge until you unforbid the copper, or until he goes insane. But since pewter is not weapons-grade, he will ignore that process, so when he gets his mood, you can force the material of your choice, simply by forbidding everything else.

Smiths that like non-weapons-grade metals: Good for artifacts.
Smiths that like weapons-grade metals: Good for regular items made of those specific metals.

Moody dwarves have never respected "weapons-grade" for making artifacts. Or have you not seen the cancer of "how good is an artifact rope reed fiber sword?" and "should I equip an artifact wax breastplate to my favorite soldier?" and other such posts?

Of course I exaggerate. Nonetheless, it's quite common for people to force things like platinum war hammers or gold maces, and those things are indeed possible. The potential smith would have no qualms about making a fine pewter sword or some such just because it's not "weapons-grade." He won't make any 'soft' items from it, gloves or socks or whatever, but anything that can normally be made from any category of metal (and some things that can't) are fair game.

Don't smelt pewter and you should be fine. What use is pewter anyway?

He'd steal it from a caravan, engrave an image of his pet cat fluffy on it, and offer it to elves.

[Tevish Szat]

If I remember correctly, liking elves just means he'll get good thoughts if you pen elves up in cages and display your prisoners right next to any other creature in your zoo.  Liking pewter is more trouble, since it practically guarantees you an artifact pewter battle axe if he ever moods.  The thing might be heavy enough to do decent impact damage, though, if you have a dwarf strong enough to wield it effectively.  Also, it means you had better keep fine pewter around, or he may go crazy from mood failure.

Having a Crazy Cat Dwarf is inevitable in just about any fort if you bring cats (which I for one always do, to control vermin populations).  stuff the cats in a cage if it starts to get bad.

[itg]

It's been reported on this forum (can't remember where I read it, though) that dwarves won't demand their favorite metal for moods unless you've actually smelted it yourself. You can buy it from the caravans and the moody dwarf won't insist on using it.

In any case, there's a better solution: get at least one bar of adamantine. No matter how much a dwarf likes some metal, he likes adamantine better.

[SixOfSpades]

Moody dwarves have never respected "weapons-grade" for making artifacts. Or have you not seen the cancer of "how good is an artifact rope reed fiber sword?" and "should I equip an artifact wax breastplate to my favorite soldier?" and other such posts?

I got the impression that those items were made by craftsdwarves, not smiths. Their choice of material was limited by their profession (/mood skill), not their preferences. In my own current fort I've got a dog bone short sword--produced by a Bone Carver, not a Weaponsmith.

The potential smith would have no qualms about making a fine pewter sword or some such just because it's not "weapons-grade."

Hm. Is this known for a fact? I for one seem to recall seeing smiths with "weapons-grade" preferences cling more rigidly to them. Then again, I just checked my fort's list of artifacts, and the only one from a weapon/armorsmith is a steel high boot, made by a smith who likes . . . bronze. Oh. Well. So, there goes that theory. 

[enolate]

If I remember correctly, liking elves just means he'll get good thoughts if you pen elves up in cages and display your prisoners right next to any other creature in your zoo.  Liking pewter is more trouble, since it practically guarantees you an artifact pewter battle axe if he ever moods.  The thing might be heavy enough to do decent impact damage, though, if you have a dwarf strong enough to wield it effectively.  Also, it means you had better keep fine pewter around, or he may go crazy from mood failure.

Having a Crazy Cat Dwarf is inevitable in just about any fort if you bring cats (which I for one always do, to control vermin populations).  stuff the cats in a cage if it starts to get bad.

No good. Pewter's density is less than iron. And it holds no edge.  You do not want a pewter weapon of any kind.

[Sirbug]

Well, I had platinum spear once.

[enolate]

Well, I had platinum spear once.

At least, you can bash people over the head with it.

[Button]

I can confirm that they'll only demand their favorite metal if you've smelted it before. Don't smelt pewter and you'll be good to go.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=128245.msg4386774#msg4386774

[skyte100]

If only he had been a fisherman. Then the entire thing would have ended. I lost one of those when part of the river thawed out. The highly advanced dwarven intelligence kicked in and one of them bee lined for the water. Only to have the ice they were standing on melt and drop them into the water.
On a side note I apparently had an ambush be destroyed before they could do anything the same way. I know because I saw many goblin corpses in the river(Embarked on a major river that is frozen from mid autumn to mid spring).