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Author Topic: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game  (Read 9849 times)

GreatWyrmGold

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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2013, 01:53:39 pm »

Improbable.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2013, 01:55:41 pm »

which part?
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2013, 02:02:15 pm »

Both that an animal would evolve to a more active or otherwise interesting lifestyle whilst being photosynthetic, and that photosynthesis could provide a substantial portion of such an animal's energy needs.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #78 on: July 25, 2013, 02:07:51 pm »

There's a certain snail that does just that. Though it isn't really symbiotic; it actually steals stuff.

Both that an animal would evolve to a more active or otherwise interesting lifestyle whilst being photosynthetic, and that photosynthesis could provide a substantial portion of such an animal's energy needs.
We could only use it for a single stage in life, Ie, the reproductive, or the early life stages.

Anyway:

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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #79 on: July 25, 2013, 02:10:17 pm »

Very active organism that gets all of its food from photosynthesis
dn16124-solarpowered-sea-slug-harnesses-stolen-plant-genes

Salamanders that get a photosynthetic boost in early life
[url]http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/symbiotic-salamander/[/ur]

Mother nature has this tendency to beat us to the punch and ignore verisimilitude concerns :P

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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #80 on: July 25, 2013, 02:11:38 pm »

There's a certain snail that does just that. Though it isn't really symbiotic; it actually steals stuff.
Could I see a Wikipedia page, BBC article, scientific name, or other thing that lets me check up on that? Above all, so I can figure out what you mean by "that"?

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Both that an animal would evolve to a more active or otherwise interesting lifestyle whilst being photosynthetic, and that photosynthesis could provide a substantial portion of such an animal's energy needs.
We could only use it for a single stage in life, Ie, the reproductive, or the early life stages.
More reasonable, but I'm still against it for the short term. Mainly because only the permanent version has been suggested, I suppose.
...Probably the early stages of life would be best. Although they'd still need to eat some stuff, and would need to hide from predators more...

Very active organism that gets all of its food from photosynthesis
[url]dn16124-solarpowered-sea-slug-harnesses-stolen-plant-genes[/ur]

Salamanders that get a photosynthetic boost in early life
[url]http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/symbiotic-salamander/[/ur]

Mother nature has this tendency to beat us to the punch and ignore verisimilitude concerns :P
Oh, look, bad links to the kind of thing I was looking for! I'll post now to avoid getting ninja'd again, then look at those.

EDIT: The salamander's seems to only be in the embryotic stage of development, which doesn't help promote the cause of lifelong photosynthesis. The sea slug (with the poetic and alliterative name of the Eastern Emerald Elysia) don't technically symbiotise with algae, and more to the point need to eat algae. I haven't been able to find anything suggesting that they rely on the photosynthesis to any extent, either.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #81 on: July 25, 2013, 02:21:23 pm »

See up for required articles. Kopout already posted them.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #82 on: July 25, 2013, 02:22:14 pm »

Were you referring to the sea slug when you said "snail"?
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #83 on: July 25, 2013, 02:23:14 pm »

Slug, snail, is about the same thing.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #84 on: July 25, 2013, 02:25:11 pm »

Not r--okay.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #85 on: July 25, 2013, 02:26:14 pm »

Now I want a shotgun that shoots snails. "Eat snail, evildoer!"
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The question we have to ask is: Do we want to become the apex predator, or, well, slime? That's pretty much the spine/symbiosis split.
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« Reply #86 on: July 25, 2013, 02:44:12 pm »

Now I want a shotgun that shoots snails. "Eat snail, evildoer!"
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doesn't sound to bad to me

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The question we have to ask is: Do we want to become the apex predator, or, well, slime? That's pretty much the spine/symbiosis split.
I, for one, would rather we be in a stable niche than a prestigious one. We wouldn't be slime exactly and we can probably get to the point were we are essentially an uneatable herbivore.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #87 on: July 25, 2013, 05:37:31 pm »

and we can probably get to the point were we are essentially an uneatable herbivore.
Ahahaha.
That will end poorly.
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #88 on: July 25, 2013, 06:04:10 pm »

Indeed it will.

Also, it's "inedible".
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Re: Extinction - Evolutionary ASCII Suggestion Game
« Reply #89 on: July 26, 2013, 04:10:29 am »

If we REALLY want to survive, our best bet is being a small carnivore of even smaller herbivores. Just ask pretty much anything ever. Ask birds, shrew-like mammals, small lizards...
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