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[Alexandria]

If one was created it's to far back that I couldn't find it so I decided to make one up since I'm certain we're going to wind up needing one.



The initial reason is thus, I'm curious what the rest of your hopes/goals are, what you want to get for yourself in the game and so on.


Mine is obvious, I'm going to gather every heavy on this planet into one massive fighting force, get them fully upgraded and armed, gather up some nice big drop ships and APC vehicles then wreak unimaginable havoc upon the native population of this planet.

I figured it'd be a good idea for us to all know what everybody else's goals are so if we come across something that can help somebody else we'll know about it.

So things like what kind of squads to you want to make? What will your particular tactics be and so on.

[Ross Vernal]

I did one for ANGRY SCIENCE, but an actual OOC is good.

[Alexandria]

Yeah I figured as the game gets going and things start happening it's gonna come up more and more often.

[10ebbor10]

Raw firepower isn't going to help much. Even you gather each and every soldier on the planet, you're still outnumbered.

Most likely, you'll be outmaneuvered, and blown up by airsupport, Kai digging technology, or simply some kind of trap. Kai are the kind of hivebeings who would blow up themselves if they can take an entire platoon with it.

Edit: My plan, insofar I have one, is to try and find out what remains of the terraforming installations, and see if I can abuse those. Find a nuclear warhead somewhere, deploy it along a geothermal fault or something similar. Create earthquakes. Attempting to exterminate the Kai hives is mostly impossible, and rather dangerous.

[Alexandria]

Air support ain't a problem. I have quad RPG's and Lock on rockets on 3 jugs already. Air support I'll blow out of the sky.

Traps is an issue, but one I can plan around and intend to in future with a couple of flight dreads and plenty of sensor upgrades, a trap I can probably detect the same way. Then walk directly into so they jump out to ambush me and my dreads dropping from the sky ambush them.

But meh, raw firepower is the answers to all problems, you just have to know where to aim it to solve said problem.
I'm not gonna be quite that stupid though, I want the numbers and firepower but I'm going to apply it in effective none suicidal ways.

Like dropping a jug team from a dropship into an enemy base to blow shit up and engage the enemy then having dreads leap the walls with flight packs to hit the enemy in the back once they turn to my jug unit.

Catch an enemy between heavy armor and super heavy armored forces and they will crumple and die very quickly, the only problem is jugs are slow so once they are dropped I have to follow through since evacuating them is almost impossible without first beating the enemy.

But hey, heavies are built for getting into the deepest of shit then blasting a way back out.

[10ebbor10]

What if they decide they're not going to ambush you, but just want to leave behind a nuclear surprise. The Kai are crazy enough to sacrifice an entire hive (minus Queen, maybe) to destroy a serious threat.

Same for the Anti Air. They're perfectly willing to go kamikaze, and it's unlikely you can blow them out of the sky before they fire missiles/ transmit coordinates to Out of Range artillery.

The Kai have underground bases. Dropships won't work there. And if they're a bit defensively minded, you'll get lost or something. Besides, narrow corridors and massive firepower go bad together. Friendly fire is on.

Edit: The US tried the superior firepower approach in Vietnam. Didn't work. Situation here is worse. Kai have superior numbers, technology, weaponry, tactics, and support.

[Alexandria]

I'll work it out as it comes, but a nuclear device is relatively easy to detect with sensors so it should be avoidable as long as we're careful, the radiation stands out a bit.

AA wise I'm fairly certain my lock on missiles will work, as long as I put a little dread unit out ahead with stealth kit to paint them I should have the range on lock on missile for massed volleys from jugs to work before they get in range of the jugs, kamikaze is an issue but dreads can use flight packs to evade and jugs? I guess they run and the dread try to carry/drag them out of the way then hope the reinforced shields can withstand the rest

Underground bases I plan to deal with a much simpler way, I'm gonna detonate explosives all over the surface and bury them alive. Underground is good for security, bad for safety if your enemy has a bomb and knows where the base is.
But even going into it with heavy firepower it works fine, jug up front, anything comes out in front of us is doing so in small numbers and I highly doubt they have bigger guns then I do, I just shoot a path through if it comes to it, but I intend to avoid underground bases as much as possible and just bury them.

The US didn't have walking tanks, and I have the audacity to be certain that if they throw an army at me I can grind it into dust. Probably suicidal I know but hey, audacity has served me well so far and on the last eventuality like that in a game I played I took down an army of 29000 men with 250 of my own. Luck has a way of favoring the bold with dice rolls.



I'm not planning a blitzkrieg style mass offensive, but with the 6 men I have at present we do have enough to knock over the smaller little bases in our area for additional supplies, with those we can come back to recruit more men and locate others to continue improving our strength.
I'm going full on offensive, on a smaller scale.

[10ebbor10]

Actually, it's not. Put a nuclear bomb in a lead tube, or just in water and it's completely invisible. It won't last, but it'll work.

I'm not so sure. The Kai are the more advanced faction here. They can develop ECM, and all sorts of antimissile technology. Also, still no answer about being targeted by rocket artillery, or conventional artillery.

The Vietnamese didn't have fusion powered warships, and didn't have complete control of an entire planet.

Kai can dig. And have perfectly selfsufficient lifesupport systems. Also, underground base was kinda an understatement. Our original base was, I dunno, 400 meters deep*. Had multiple selfsufficient lifesupport systems, blast doors, and there were plans for even deeper, larger bases. Things designed to withstand orbital bombardment on a massive scale...


Also, the Kai have bigger guns than you. That's kind of a certainty. They're the more advanced factions, and have plenty of time to reverse engineer everything.

*There were surface levels for the flowers.

The US didn't have walking tanks, and I have the audacity to be certain that if they throw an army at me I can grind it into dust. Probably suicidal I know but hey, audacity has served me well so far and on the last eventuality like that in a game I played I took down an army of 29000 men with 250 of my own. Luck has a way of favoring the bold with dice rolls.

Those odds are a major victory for the Kai, you know. Exponential growth and that kind of stuff.

[Alexandria]

When I see bad odds I see a challenge waiting for me to beat it.

Kai are going down and I'm getting off this planet alive, even if all of you have to die to make it happen.

I'll deal with those problems when it comes up.

[kj1225]

I was going to have fun.

[Ross Vernal]

dreads can use flight packs to evade

Nope. That's only for the absolute lightest armor.

Heavies don't so much "fly" as "kinda hover".

[Alexandria]

Then they can hover away.... still beats walking.

[escaped lurker]

I was going to have fun.

Along the intelectual-tactical lines of fun in my case, but I very much think that this is a given for most people here. Unless its time for wacky and experimental fun, but I do hope we refrain from that here.

On the whole heavy discussion, I actually would prefer if half of those new troops were scouts / stealth-sabotage guys. Not complaining, but at our current strength, information holds more sway than anything. But sure, lets get anyone on board who wants to.

I kinda envision this whole matter more as guerillia warfare than "get the big guns and blaze away" - especially with many of the Kai-bases prepared for orbital bombardement, their basically unlimited numbers - compared to our own at least - and such. We should concentrate on getting as much xeno-knowledge on them for now as we can. Then we could mayhaps wage a bio-war of some kind. Just imagine their flowers dying off, or the lesser drones going berserk because of a malfunction in their brain. Yeah, sure, far far out there - but better than blazing guns in the long run. Not sure wich one would be more feasible, but worth a try anyways.

[Alexandria]

Well you can always try to recruit some.

I limited myself to recruiting heavies only.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

I think kai would be naturally resistant to bio-warfare- they can enforce a quarantine rather efficiently.

@Alexandria

Welp, if you see a challenge to be overcome in bad odds...for the life of me I can't find it, but there's a good quote out there somewhere along the lines of 'they don't write stories about good generals.' On one hand, that means if you want to be legendary, you have to take risks. On the other, it means if you want to be a good general, you're not joining battle unless victory's already a certainty.