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[Geldrin]

OP: Absolutely. At my very first fortress, I embarked next to a were-deer's lair, who was a kobold in "civil life". He immediately transformed, so the first thing I saw was the warning message right after the "strike the earth!" screen. Unpuased the game... he rushed against my starting seven, killed somebody, then escaped back to his stinkhole after transforming back. I've had no idea what was happening so it was really confusing for the first DF play experience.

[Tirion]

Remember that guy who embarked on the lair of a cyclops and it's very big family?

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

OP: Absolutely. At my very first fortress, I embarked next to a were-deer's lair, who was a kobold in "civil life". He immediately transformed, so the first thing I saw was the warning message right after the "strike the earth!" screen. Unpuased the game... he rushed against my starting seven, killed somebody, then escaped back to his stinkhole after transforming back. I've had no idea what was happening so it was really confusing for the first DF play experience.

Welcome to Dwarf Fortress! Mind the ledge:

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[Miriage]

OP: Absolutely. At my very first fortress, I embarked next to a were-deer's lair, who was a kobold in "civil life". He immediately transformed, so the first thing I saw was the warning message right after the "strike the earth!" screen. Unpuased the game... he rushed against my starting seven, killed somebody, then escaped back to his stinkhole after transforming back. I've had no idea what was happening so it was really confusing for the first DF play experience.

Welcome to Dwarf Fortress! Mind the ledge:

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First time I saw that picture it was about eveonline.

[Loud Whispers]

First time I saw that picture it was about eveonline.

We actually had investigations into the origins of this and another image before. Neither eve online nor DF were the progenitors from which all others are based [though they are now, as they are the two most common and oldest shoops]. The original copy may long since be dead.

[Eric Blank]

It cant possibly be dead! The internet never forgets!


On-topic; I've embarked on several lairs/caves/whatever with occupants. One of them was a cave in an older version with a hydra. Or maybe it was two hydras... Anyway, my dwarves were pretty soon mushy hydra porridge. I reclaimed with a military party, and the site appeared to have been abandoned so I had everyone mull around stockpiling the goods strewn about. Unfortunately, megabeasts apparently don't abandon their site after killing you, they just go into ambush! Soon enough a dwarf wandered off into the fields to pick something up, and the hydra appeared, and tore him to shreds. I activated the other dwarves, but they too were mutilated and the fortress was once again abandoned. I embarked two more times with two more parties until finally the hydra was slain. Not that I kept the fortress, though.

I also embarked for the purposes of ‼SCIENCE‼ and breeding testing with dragons. I found a lair with an adult female and her son, and spent some time there waiting for eggs to hatch. They didn't, proving that the CHILD tag is necessary for reproduction in-game, even via egg, and even though dragons would reproduce fine in worldgen. I eventually abandoned that site too.

[Korva]

I want to get back into DF, but my perfectionism demands a site that is "just so", and so far I have not found it. One of the closest candidates includes a hydra lair. I'm definitely tempted to give it a whirl and see if I can wall it in before it eats everyone, then weaponize it later. :p

But if "locals" are immune to traps, that's a bummer because it means no caging for taming and breeding. Meh. I did not not that.

[EvilBob22]

Locals aren't immune to traps if they are blown into them by dust (either titan/FB dust or cave in dust), or if they are webbed.

[krenshala]

Locals aren't immune to traps if they are blown into them by dust (either titan/FB dust or cave in dust), or if they are webbed.

... or otherwise rendered unconscious.  And, for the record, sleep is considered to be unconsciousness so if it sleeps, you can pen it into a small area filled with cage traps and it should be captured as soon as it dozes off.

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

Locals aren't immune to traps if they are blown into them by dust (either titan/FB dust or cave in dust), or if they are webbed.

... or otherwise rendered unconscious.  And, for the record, sleep is considered to be unconsciousness so if it sleeps, you can pen it into a small area filled with cage traps and it should be captured as soon as it dozes off.

Do anything other than dwarves sleep?

[krenshala]

Locals aren't immune to traps if they are blown into them by dust (either titan/FB dust or cave in dust), or if they are webbed.

... or otherwise rendered unconscious.  And, for the record, sleep is considered to be unconsciousness so if it sleeps, you can pen it into a small area filled with cage traps and it should be captured as soon as it dozes off.

Do anything other than dwarves sleep?

Not that I'm aware of, but I was actually thinking of were-beast fortress citizens when I added that.

[Skorp]

Locals aren't immune to traps if they are blown into them by dust (either titan/FB dust or cave in dust), or if they are webbed.

... or otherwise rendered unconscious.  And, for the record, sleep is considered to be unconsciousness so if it sleeps, you can pen it into a small area filled with cage traps and it should be captured as soon as it dozes off.

Do anything other than dwarves sleep?

Not that I'm aware of, but I was actually thinking of were-beast fortress citizens when I added that.

I'm totally sure that only dwarves sleep, other creatures can only be stunned or lose consciousness due to pain

[Loud Whispers]

I'm totally sure that only dwarves sleep, other creatures can only be stunned or lose consciousness due to pain

And syndromes, don't forget those. Someone once had a Fortress where their anti-siege defence consisted of fluffballs carrying sleep syndromes rolling around and non-violently ending sieges.

[Unfortunately, the Dwarves had a habit of slow learning and rather violently dispatched the sleeping guests].

[Drazinononda]

I'm totally sure that only dwarves sleep, other creatures can only be stunned or lose consciousness due to pain

And syndromes, don't forget those. Someone once had a Fortress where their anti-siege defence consisted of fluffballs carrying sleep syndromes rolling around and non-violently ending sieges.

[Unfortunately, the Dwarves had a habit of slow learning and rather violently dispatched the sleeping guests].

Query: do non-dwarves suffer the same 'curse of eternal sleep' that other [NO_SLEEP] creatures (e.g. vampires) do? Because that would actually be a pretty awesome defense if they do.

[Yazman]

Locals aren't immune to traps if they are blown into them by dust (either titan/FB dust or cave in dust), or if they are webbed.

... or otherwise rendered unconscious.  And, for the record, sleep is considered to be unconsciousness so if it sleeps, you can pen it into a small area filled with cage traps and it should be captured as soon as it dozes off.

Do anything other than dwarves sleep?

Humans do. You can see them sleeping regularly in adventure mode.