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[h.scorpio]

Dwarf and man turned into wagons.

Perished wagons raised by necromantic powers.

WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?

[Trollhammaren]

"You killed my men. I am different from them. I learned the art of the Dwarven Axe from Captain Ironblood himself. Your wagon zombies are no more. You are unarmed and helpless. This ends here."

The Axe Lord has transformed into a wagon!

You are already dead.

Urist McHero, legendary axedwarf, has been scuttled.

[wierd]

Now I want to see if there is any way to use the were-curse mechanism to transform dwarves into humans every full moon.

[Spacespinner]

Now I want to see if there is any way to use the were-curse mechanism to transform dwarves into Fish Dissectors every full moon.

[Gamerlord]

Now I want to see if there is any way to use the were-curse mechanism to transform dwarves into Fish Dissectors every full moon.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Rainbow_Lizard]

I recommend changing the wagon's body to give it legs if you want him to not be scuttled. If you want it to make sense, call the legs Axles.

[mastahcheese]

"The Wagon stands up."

[Halfling]

Wagons already have stance parts, the wheels.

[Chagen46]

Serious question met with scornful reply.  [sarcasm]Nice one. [/sarcasm]

Well actually he was being sort of helpful... in a slightly deranged way. You can take my half-baked wagon stuff below and make an adventurer, then start zapping things into wagons and see what sticks. I personally feel like I've pursued this line of research enough for now after the wagon zombies.

Spoiler: interaction_wagonmancer (click to show/hide)

interaction_wagonmancer

[OBJECT:INTERACTION]

[INTERACTION:ASSUME_WAGON_FORM]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
   [I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
   [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
   [SYNDROME]
      [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
      [CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:0]
      [CE:CREATURE:EQUIPMENT_WAGON:WAGON]


[INTERACTION:ANIMATE_ANY_CORPSE]
   [I_TARGET:A:CORPSE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_ITEM]
      [IT_MANUAL_INPUT:corpses]
   [I_EFFECT:ANIMATE]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
      [IE_ARENA_NAME:Animated wagon corpse]
      [SYNDROME]
         [CE_FLASH_TILE:TILE:165:3:0:0:FREQUENCY:2000:1000:START:0]
         [CE_PHYS_ATT_CHANGE:STRENGTH:300:1000:TOUGHNESS:300:1000:START:0]
         [CE_SPEED_CHANGE:SPEED_PERC:60:START:0]
[CE_ADD_TAG:NO_AGING:NOT_LIVING:OPPOSED_TO_LIFE:EXTRAVISION:NOEXERT:NOPAIN:NOBREATHE:NOSTUN:NONAUSEA:NO_DIZZINESS:NO_FEVERS:NOEMOTION:PARALYZEIMMUNE:NOFEAR:NO_EAT:NO_DRINK:NO_SLEEP:NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN:NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST:NOTHOUGHT:NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT:NO_CONNECTIONS_FOR_MOVEMENT:START:0]
         [CE_REMOVE_TAG:HAS_BLOOD:TRANCES:LIKES_FIGHTING:MISCHIEVOUS:START:0]

Spoiler: improved wagon raws. needed to add CASTE to make transformation function, removed itemcorpse (click to show/hide)

creature_equipment

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:EQUIPMENT_WAGON]
   [DESCRIPTION:A rolling platform for carrying passengers or cargo.]
   [NAME:wagon:wagons:wagon]
   [CASTE:WAGON]
   [CASTE_NAME:wagon:wagons:wagon]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'W'][COLOR:6:0:0]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC][EQUIPMENT_WAGON]
   [NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [BODY:WAGON]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_TEMPLATE]

   Wagons-as-creatures is most likely going to be replaced once moving siege engines are in, so we'll just use a generic "wood" material here instead of worrying about coding up race glosses again.

   [TISSUE:WOOD]
      [TISSUE_NAME:wood:wooden]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:WOOD]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:WOOD]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:12000]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [TRADE_CAPACITY:15000]
   [MUNDANE]

Spoiler: sample creature addition. need to edit targeting (click to show/hide)

   
   [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:ASSUME_WAGON_FORM]
       [CDI:ADV_NAME:Assume the form of a wagon]
       [CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ONLY]
       [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:1]
       [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:9001]
      [CDI:VERB:assume the form of a wagon:assumes the form of a wagon:assumes the form of a wagon]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:ANIMATE_ANY_CORPSE]
            [CDI:ADV_NAME:Animate corpse]
            [CDI:TARGET:A:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
            [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:10]
            [CDI:VERB:gesture:gestures:NA]
            [CDI:TARGET_VERB:shudder and begin to move:shudders and begins to move]
            [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:0]

...but having gone that far, I would say the default assumption is there is no way to prevent the scuttling.

You realize that a wagonmancer would be someone who divines the future by means of wagons, right?

Sorry, just tired of this "whatever-mancy" stuff when "-mancy" means "divination".
/autism

[Urist Da Vinci]

...

You realize that a wagonmancer would be someone who divines the future by means of wagons, right?

Sorry, just tired of this "whatever-mancy" stuff when "-mancy" means "divination".
/autism

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/Whatevermancy

[InfinityOrNone]

You realize that a wagonmancer would be someone who divines the future by means of wagons, right?

Sorry, just tired of this "whatever-mancy" stuff when "-mancy" means "divination".
/autism

Yes, the Greek root "-mancy" originally meant for divination, but the English language has  hijacked the root and all associated words to describe any form of specialized magic, a use found within this very game as Necromancers act to use the dead, not divine information from them. For that matter, the last time I heard the Greek use of "-mancy" was in the book Neuromancer, and that was made decades ago. Additionally, the insistence of the use of Greek definitions shows a poor grasp of the English language, where (for example) the words Necromancy, Pyromancy, and etcetera have been redefined to reflect their popular usage.

Also, wagonurgy sounds moronic.

/also an autist

[Kolnukbyne]

You realize that a wagonmancer would be someone who divines the future by means of wagons, right?

Sorry, just tired of this "whatever-mancy" stuff when "-mancy" means "divination".
/autism

Yes, the Greek root "-mancy" originally meant for divination, but the English language has  hijacked the root and all associated words to describe any form of specialized magic, a use found within this very game as Necromancers act to use the dead, not divine information from them. For that matter, the last time I heard the Greek use of "-mancy" was in the book Neuromancer, and that was made decades ago. Additionally, the insistence of the use of Greek definitions shows a poor grasp of the English language, where (for example) the words Necromancy, Pyromancy, and etcetera have been redefined to reflect their popular usage.

Also, wagonurgy sounds moronic.

/also an autist

And really, who wants to go around calling themselves a Necro-Wainwright?

[Chagen46]

You realize that a wagonmancer would be someone who divines the future by means of wagons, right?

Sorry, just tired of this "whatever-mancy" stuff when "-mancy" means "divination".
/autism

Yes, the Greek root "-mancy" originally meant for divination, but the English language has  hijacked the root and all associated words to describe any form of specialized magic, a use found within this very game as Necromancers act to use the dead, not divine information from them. For that matter, the last time I heard the Greek use of "-mancy" was in the book Neuromancer, and that was made decades ago. Additionally, the insistence of the use of Greek definitions shows a poor grasp of the English language, where (for example) the words Necromancy, Pyromancy, and etcetera have been redefined to reflect their popular usage.

Also, wagonurgy sounds moronic.

/also an autist

Insisting that people actually use shit correctly is not "a poor grasp of the English language", it's asking them to actually think for a fucking second about the words they're using. English is my native language if you're doubtful.

I'd prefer to call it "Wagoncraft", anyway. Anglish FTW.

[Halfling]

It seems like you've given my name choice more thought than I did to the entire set of raws. Construe it as a mishmash of "wagon" and "necromancer" as the set has both the wagon ability and the important ability to raise wagon zombies. I'll happily forgo discussing whether that should be a "necrourge" as English is not my first language (and probably would anyway, sorry).

That said I should think that you are completely correct on the point of course.

[Yazman]

You realize that a wagonmancer would be someone who divines the future by means of wagons, right?

Sorry, just tired of this "whatever-mancy" stuff when "-mancy" means "divination".
/autism

Yes, the Greek root "-mancy" originally meant for divination, but the English language has  hijacked the root and all associated words to describe any form of specialized magic, a use found within this very game as Necromancers act to use the dead, not divine information from them. For that matter, the last time I heard the Greek use of "-mancy" was in the book Neuromancer, and that was made decades ago. Additionally, the insistence of the use of Greek definitions shows a poor grasp of the English language, where (for example) the words Necromancy, Pyromancy, and etcetera have been redefined to reflect their popular usage.

Also, wagonurgy sounds moronic.

/also an autist

Insisting that people actually use shit correctly is not "a poor grasp of the English language", it's asking them to actually think for a fucking second about the words they're using. English is my native language if you're doubtful.

I'd prefer to call it "Wagoncraft", anyway. Anglish FTW.

Except as InfiniteOrNone explained, you're not insisting that people use things correctly, you are insisting that people ignore common usage in modern english. In 2013, both usages are correct. What you gave is called the etymology of the -mancy suffix. Yes, it can refer to divination, but in common usage it does not. Words can have multiple meanings in different contexts, and anybody who is a reader of fiction, player of computer or tabletop games, or a cinema lover knows that "-mancy" does not refer to divination as per its etymology but specialised forms of magic. In fact, Dwarf Fortress itself uses this meaning of the term 'necromancy'.