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[PDF urist master]

how come wagons can be memorialized but not caravan guards?

[Shadow Creator]

how come wagons can be memorialized but not caravan guards?

This is both a hilarious and legitimate question. Caravan Guards are obviously hired mercenaries not fit for memorial halls while wagons are the lifeblood of trade between the great nations.

[ZzarkLinux]

I guess we should post some eulogy music.

[Timeless Bob]

So there is no way to produce an adventure mode wagon, able to be pushed or whatever in adventure mode?  (Am I reading this correctly?)  I've been trying to find info on self-moving wagons (or comparible hacks) to be turned into Discworld's "Luggage".  Also, an adventure mode wagon sounds pretty much like a mount except for the cosmetics.

I'd appreciate any help, if I'm reading this wrong.

[Loud Whispers]

So there is no way to produce an adventure mode wagon, able to be pushed or whatever in adventure mode?

Ha ha ha.
Oh god wow.

Yes, it is possible. Create a UFO flying disc, with a projectile natural syndrome attack that transforms anything that's not a UFO into a wagon.

Go to adventure mode, and science. GLORIOUS science.

Is it a crime against nature to transform creatures into wagons?

[Kolnukbyne]

I finally got around to memorialising Wagon. Once my fort perishes I'll have to check the legends for him, as he is clearly a historical figure now.

He was also, apparently, really darn old. Dwarven Maintenance, man dwarf.

[Spacespinner]

DAMN. That is one old wagon.

[Timeless Bob]

Serious question met with scornful reply.  [sarcasm]Nice one. [/sarcasm]

[Loud Whispers]

200 year old wagon tank, just add oxen.

[Halfling]

Serious question met with scornful reply.  [sarcasm]Nice one. [/sarcasm]

Well actually he was being sort of helpful... in a slightly deranged way. You can take my half-baked wagon stuff below and make an adventurer, then start zapping things into wagons and see what sticks. I personally feel like I've pursued this line of research enough for now after the wagon zombies.

Spoiler: interaction_wagonmancer (click to show/hide)

interaction_wagonmancer

[OBJECT:INTERACTION]

[INTERACTION:ASSUME_WAGON_FORM]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
   [I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
   [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
   [SYNDROME]
      [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
      [CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION:START:0]
      [CE:CREATURE:EQUIPMENT_WAGON:WAGON]


[INTERACTION:ANIMATE_ANY_CORPSE]
   [I_TARGET:A:CORPSE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_ITEM]
      [IT_MANUAL_INPUT:corpses]
   [I_EFFECT:ANIMATE]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
      [IE_ARENA_NAME:Animated wagon corpse]
      [SYNDROME]
         [CE_FLASH_TILE:TILE:165:3:0:0:FREQUENCY:2000:1000:START:0]
         [CE_PHYS_ATT_CHANGE:STRENGTH:300:1000:TOUGHNESS:300:1000:START:0]
         [CE_SPEED_CHANGE:SPEED_PERC:60:START:0]
[CE_ADD_TAG:NO_AGING:NOT_LIVING:OPPOSED_TO_LIFE:EXTRAVISION:NOEXERT:NOPAIN:NOBREATHE:NOSTUN:NONAUSEA:NO_DIZZINESS:NO_FEVERS:NOEMOTION:PARALYZEIMMUNE:NOFEAR:NO_EAT:NO_DRINK:NO_SLEEP:NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN:NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST:NOTHOUGHT:NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT:NO_CONNECTIONS_FOR_MOVEMENT:START:0]
         [CE_REMOVE_TAG:HAS_BLOOD:TRANCES:LIKES_FIGHTING:MISCHIEVOUS:START:0]

Spoiler: improved wagon raws. needed to add CASTE to make transformation function, removed itemcorpse (click to show/hide)

creature_equipment

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:EQUIPMENT_WAGON]
   [DESCRIPTION:A rolling platform for carrying passengers or cargo.]
   [NAME:wagon:wagons:wagon]
   [CASTE:WAGON]
   [CASTE_NAME:wagon:wagons:wagon]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'W'][COLOR:6:0:0]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC][EQUIPMENT_WAGON]
   [NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [BODY:WAGON]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_TEMPLATE]

   Wagons-as-creatures is most likely going to be replaced once moving siege engines are in, so we'll just use a generic "wood" material here instead of worrying about coding up race glosses again.

   [TISSUE:WOOD]
      [TISSUE_NAME:wood:wooden]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:WOOD]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:WOOD]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:12000]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [TRADE_CAPACITY:15000]
   [MUNDANE]

Spoiler: sample creature addition. need to edit targeting (click to show/hide)

   
   [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:ASSUME_WAGON_FORM]
       [CDI:ADV_NAME:Assume the form of a wagon]
       [CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ONLY]
       [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:1]
       [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:9001]
      [CDI:VERB:assume the form of a wagon:assumes the form of a wagon:assumes the form of a wagon]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:ANIMATE_ANY_CORPSE]
            [CDI:ADV_NAME:Animate corpse]
            [CDI:TARGET:A:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
            [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:10]
            [CDI:VERB:gesture:gestures:NA]
            [CDI:TARGET_VERB:shudder and begin to move:shudders and begins to move]
            [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:0]

...but having gone that far, I would say the default assumption is there is no way to prevent the scuttling.

[Loud Whispers]

...but having gone that far, I would say the default assumption is there is no way to prevent the scuttling.

The sponge now has a natural predator: THE WAGONMANCER

[Sergarr]

Only in DF: Wagonmancers!

[codyorr]

Note to self: Crush wagons and slaves dwarves with bridges.

[Urist Da Vinci]

...but having gone that far, I would say the default assumption is there is no way to prevent the scuttling.

The sponge now has a natural predator: THE WAGONMANCER

Creatures that are already under the effect of a transformation are immune to further transformations, so wagonmancers can at least be defeated by active werebeasts.

[Spacespinner]

THIS. THREAD.