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[Spacespinner]

Can we just all agree that the english language evolves over time with the meaning of words changing even within a generation, and get back on track? Interesting though it is discussing the origin of words, it's getting old fast.

[mastahcheese]

Can we just all agree that the english language evolves over time with the meaning of words changing even within a generation, and get back on track? Interesting though it is discussing the origin of words, it's getting old fast.

Yes, let's get on with it.

[Spacespinner]

I'm suddenly curious: How would one go about making Wagons a valid type of Titan/forgotten beast? An "Emerald wagon with 8 wheels that undulates rhythmically. Beware it's venomous splinters!" message popping up would be hilarious. Not to mention what it would do to the history of the world, especially if you made them with good survivability like how dragons frequently survive a long time.

[_LoneWolf_]

The world has passed into The Wagon Age.

[Spacespinner]

The world has passed into The Wagon Age.

"The Age of Wagon was a time when the Titan Wagon was the only great power in the world."

[Spacespinner]

The world has passed into The Wagon Age.

"The Age of Wagon was a time when the Titan Wagon was the only great power in the world."

"The Age of Wagon Tales was a time when wagons were few and far between, and some even doubted their existence."

The Age of Three Wagons was a time when the WagonMancer, the Scuttled Wagon and the Wagon Wheel were the only great powers in the world.

[Halfling]

Well, actually I believe you could make some titans/FBs be wagons. You just need to, I think, edit the binary since it contains the strings for said (e.g. "quadruped") and then edit the corresponding RCP in body_rcp. On linux the first part is as easy as firing up your command line and 's/quadruped/wagon    /g'-ing /libs/Dwarf_Fortress (see below).

Unfortunately you can't make them actual wagons, unless you want ALL forgotten beasts and titans to be wagons, because they share tokens.

But hey, since we're doing stuff I figured I'd try it out. Here's how to do the first part:

Spoiler: creature names list (click to show/hide)

blob
quadruped
humanoid
silverfish
mayfly
dragonfly
damselfly
stonefly
earwig
grasshopper
cricket
stick insect
cockroach
termite
mantis
louse
thrips
aphid
cicada
assassin bug
wasp
hornet
tiger beetle
ladybug
weevil
darkling beetle
click beetle
firefly
scarab beetle
stag beetle
dung beetle
rhinoceros beetle
rove beetle
snakefly
lacewing
antlion larva
mosquito
flea
scorpionfly
caddisfly
butterfly
caterpillar
maggot
spider
tarantula
scorpion
tick
shrimp
lobster
crab
nematode
snail
slug
earthworm
leech
bristleworm
ribbon worm
flat worm
toad
frog
salamander
newt
alligator
crocodile
lizard
chameleon
iguana
gecko
skink
gila monster
monitor
serpent
viper
rattlesnake
cobra
python
anaconda
turtle
tortoise
pterosaur
dimetrodon
sauropod
theropod
iguanodont
hadrosaurid
stegosaurid
ceratopsid
ankylosaurid
duck
swan
turkey
grouse
chicken
quail
pheasant
gull
loon
grebe
albatross
petrel
penguin
pelican
stork
vulture
flamingo
falcon
kestrel
condor
osprey
buzzard
eagle
harrier
hawk
kite
crane
dove
pigeon
parrot
cockatoo
cuckoo
nightjar
swift
hummingbird
kingfisher
quetzal
toucan
woodpecker
lyrebird
thornbill
honeyeater
oriole
fantail
shrike
crow
raven
magpie
kinglet
lark
swallow
martin
bushtit
warbler
thrush
oxpecker
starling
mockingbird
wren
nuthatch
sparrow
tanager
cardinal
bunting
finch
titmouse
chickadee
waxwing
flycatcher
opossum
koala
wombat
kangaroo
sloth
anteater
armadillo
squirrel
marmot
beaver
gopher
porcupine
chinchilla
cavy
capybara
rabbit
hare
lemur
loris
monkey
hedgehog
shrew
mole
fruit bat
wolf
coyote
jackal
raccoon
coati
weasel
badger
skunk
panda
panther
mongoose
hyena
civet
walrus
pangolin
elephant
mammoth
horse
zebra
tapir
rhinoceros
warthog
hippopotamus
camel
llama
giraffe
deer
moose
antelope
sheep
goat
bison
buffalo
bull

Spoiler: script (click to show/hide)

#pad string with spaces to avoid segmentation faults

while read line
do
   line_length=`expr length "$line"`
        wagon_x="wagon"
   if [ "$line_length" -gt 4 ]
   then
        wagon_n=5
        while [ "$wagon_n" -lt "$line_length" ]
   do
   wagon_x="$wagon_x "
   wagon_n=`expr length "$wagon_x"`
   done
   echo -n " sed -i 's/$line/$wagon_x/g' Dwarf_Fortress &&"
   fi
done < creature_names

Spoiler: sample command (made by script) (click to show/hide)

 sed -i 's/quadruped/wagon    /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/humanoid/wagon   /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/silverfish/wagon     /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/mayfly/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/dragonfly/wagon    /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/damselfly/wagon    /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/stonefly/wagon   /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/earwig/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/grasshopper/wagon      /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/cricket/wagon  /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/stick insect/wagon       /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/cockroach/wagon    /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/termite/wagon  /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/mantis/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/louse/wagon/g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/thrips/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/aphid/wagon/g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/cicada/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/assassin bug/wagon       /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/hornet/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/tiger beetle/wagon       /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/ladybug/wagon  /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/weevil/wagon /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/darkling beetle/wagon          /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/click beetle/wagon       /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/firefly/wagon  /g' Dwarf_Fortress && sed -i 's/scarab beetle/wagon        /g'

Result:







I'm not sure if they are all actual wagons. For bodies I just made:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

[BODY:RCP_BASIC_BODY]
[BP:FRONT:front:STP][CATEGORY:BODY_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]
[BP:BACK:back:STP][CON:FRONT][CATEGORY:BODY_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]
[BP:RFW:right front wheel:STP][CON:FRONT][GRASP][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT_FRONT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:LFW:left front wheel:STP][CON:FRONT][GRASP][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT_FRONT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:RRW:right rear wheel:STP][CON:BACK][STANCE][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT_REAR]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:LRW:left rear wheel:STP][CON:BACK][STANCE][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT_REAR]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]

which made DF cry a lot about missing body parts in the errorlog but did not stop it from generating random creatures.

[Drazinononda]

I tried to imagine each of those. The easiest, I think, is the one that lopes quickly.

[KingBacon]

Would a FB wagon also just fall apart as soon as it appears on map?

[Mohreb el Yasim]

Now I want to see if there is any way to use the were-curse mechanism to transform dwarves into Fish Dissectors every full moon.

you made me ralise that cheesemakers become a usefull member of dwarfkind
  :[ 
i am getting old
  :[ 

[Spacespinner]

I'm just happy someone made a 3 eyed wagon with horns and deadly blood.

[Swonnrr]

Note sur if it have been mentioned in this thread, but...
Wagons are multi-tiles, right?
And Wagon are creatures.
Well, a form of creature.
They move, do thing, and can be destroyed.
So we DO have a form of multi-tiles creatures, with all requested criterias, except for a few bugs (wich could be misunderstanding of the system)?

It's so obvious... Maybe no-one ever realized that the multi-tiles creatures code was ALREADY implemented?
Maybe they aren't that far after all... I'm relatively new on these forums, so... Does Toady knows it? With Multi-tiles trees and all that.

[AutomataKittay]

Note sur if it have been mentioned in this thread, but...
Wagons are multi-tiles, right?
And Wagon are creatures.
Well, a form of creature.
They move, do thing, and can be destroyed.
So we DO have a form of multi-tiles creatures, with all requested criterias, except for a few bugs (wich could be misunderstanding of the system)?

It's so obvious... Maybe no-one ever realized that the multi-tiles creatures code was ALREADY implemented?
Maybe they aren't that far after all... I'm relatively new on these forums, so... Does Toady knows it? With Multi-tiles trees and all that.

Wagon's pretty much a special exception among creatures, I'm pretty sure Toady have outright said it. So multi-tiled creature code is implemented, but only in case of wagons and hard-coded for it. It's been the case since the 2D day ( I believe! ).

In either case, properly working multi-tile creatures will come in play, eventually, who know how many versions in future

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Well, actually I believe you could make some titans/FBs be wagons. You just need to, I think, edit the binary since it contains the strings for said (e.g. "quadruped") and then edit the corresponding RCP in body_rcp. On linux the first part is as easy as firing up your command line and 's/quadruped/wagon    /g'-ing /libs/Dwarf_Fortress (see below).

Unfortunately you can't make them actual wagons, unless you want ALL forgotten beasts and titans to be wagons, because they share tokens.

Result:







I'm not sure if they are all actual wagons. For bodies I just made:
[spoiler]

Code: [Select]

[BODY:RCP_BASIC_BODY]
[BP:FRONT:front:STP][CATEGORY:BODY_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]
[BP:BACK:back:STP][CON:FRONT][CATEGORY:BODY_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]
[BP:RFW:right front wheel:STP][CON:FRONT][GRASP][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT_FRONT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:LFW:left front wheel:STP][CON:FRONT][GRASP][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT_FRONT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:RRW:right rear wheel:STP][CON:BACK][STANCE][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT_REAR]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]
[BP:LRW:left rear wheel:STP][CON:BACK][STANCE][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT_REAR]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:100]which made DF cry a lot about missing body parts in the errorlog but did not stop it from generating random creatures.

I have seen the future. It carries onwards, relentless in its pursuit for victory. It is stronger than any ocean, faster than the colds of night and the warmth of day, it travels across every 3-tile wide surface in an unstoppable movement. On four wheels the spokes turn, they come closer every day. Trade goods from every corner of the world on every surface above and below, they trundle onwards, they have seen you, they know where you are and they will find you. The bodies of the wagons from before time, once in sight transmute the most potent of feelings, the feeling of pure wagon.
And then you are a wagon, and you join the future.

[Ruhn]

Do the wagon-people scuttle due to not having any beasts to pull them?