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[Alexandria]

True, shame it's a very wet jungle which means no burning. It'd take far to long so we have to do it the old fashion way, charge in and blow shit up.

[Harbingerjm]

They're using ancient flak grenades. (At least that what I'm assuming the ancient black cloud cannons do.) These kind of ancient weapons, apparently with homemade shells, tend to be rather explosive.

Also, if the flak survives, but the operators don't, that's better for us. Loot ftw.

Looting Chaos equipment?
NOPE.

[Alexandria]

We can use the ammunition mate if nothing else, though I'm hoping if we pull this off we can just get supplies dropped in to us and maybe even some reinforcements if we're lucky. Like a battalion of drop troopers because they would be amazingly useful to us.
If we are pushed back to the third line we let the enemy attack us in force then drop them in behind to close the door and crush them in between us.

Drop troops are amazingly useful in almost every circumstance every army should have a battalion or 10.

[10ebbor10]

Well, blowing them up seems easier when they're not shooting at us.

[Alexandria]

Btw Adwarf, is it possible for us to get drop troopers? They'd make great sense for siege offense. Blow an entrance and the enemy expects you to send in the troopers, they don't expect an army to drop out of the skies with guns blazing to shred the defenders within before they know they're under attack.

(( I really really love drop troopers. Old ODST hang up.))

[Parsely]

Unsupported aerial attacks never work on fortified positions.

[Alexandria]

Aerial attacks directly after massed artillery bombardments with infantry and veterans following them in works perfectly though.

The aerial attack is purely to throw them off balance for a few minutes so the infantry can get inside without running the gauntlet of defensive fire first.
Aerial force will lose some men, but far less then a head on infantry assault across the ground.

[Parsely]

Only problem is those aerial troops can't land in sufficient strength to make a difference while the AA is up, and massed artillery will never be accurate enough to wipe out all of the positions.

Dropping troops straight into a hostile fortress is generally just a horrible idea. They'd be in the open, completely surrounded by angry enemies. They'd be dead in seconds, not minutes.

[Alexandria]

They can drop in enough numbers to draw attention for a few minutes, thats all they need to do.

[Parsely]

They'd be dead in seconds, not minutes.

[Harbingerjm]

On the one hand, Alexandria does have a point, life is cheap in the Imperial Guard, so getting a bunch of men killed for a relatively small tactical gain is pretty in character.
On the other hand, Drop Troopers tend to be more valuable than most infantry, given the training times needed, and grav-chutes and the like are much more valuable than guardsmen!

[Parsely]

On the one hand, Alexandria does have a point, life is cheap in the Imperial Guard, so getting a bunch of men killed for a relatively small tactical gain is pretty in character.
On the other hand, Drop Troopers tend to be more valuable than most infantry, given the training times needed, and grav-chutes and the like are much more valuable than guardsmen!

I was just pointing out that sacrificing those drop troops in a suicide mission (nothing against suicide missions. those are the best kind of mission ) would generally (but not always) not be the best way to use those men.

[Harbingerjm]

I was just pointing out that sacrificing those drop troops in a suicide mission (nothing against suicide missions. those are the best kind of mission ) would generally (but not always) not be the best way to use those men.

Possible fix?

[Parsely]

I was just pointing out that sacrificing those drop troops in a suicide mission (nothing against suicide missions. those are the best kind of mission ) would generally (but not always) not be the best way to use those men.

Possible fix?

[10ebbor10]

Unsupported aerial attacks never work on fortified positions.

Largest fortifications in the world.Considered impregnable. Neutralized by 56 gliders of the german forces in less than 6 hours.