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DwarfOfTheLand

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I...I Need Help
« on: July 14, 2013, 10:37:56 pm »

I understand that Dwarf Fortress is not just a game, but a way of life. However, I have lost all inspiration to play. I have lost all knowledge that I have previously had for Dwarf Fortress, and everything else.

So my question to you all that wish to help is: Mind giving a brotha some inspiration to get back into DF and try and learn what the heck to do again?

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 10:50:11 pm »

One day, you too can create such awe-inspiring and thought provoking pieces as this:


I eagerly await the outcome of your experiments.

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2013, 11:41:07 pm »

Hmm...as do I...

Question.

How can I get it to stop lagging so bad sometimes? I turned an FPS counter on and bambambambambambam it goes down to like, 50 FPS
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 11:45:03 pm »

I am no expert on framerate. Here are a couple thoughts though:
I guess it depends on what is causing the lag. I was playing DF the other day, and my antivirus up and decided to run a "scheduled" scan. (this was a wednesday evening and the scans are scheduled for Monday midnight.). Anyway, the scan caused all kinds of lag. 50 FPS isn't bad though. Your fort should be moving merrily along at that rate.

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2013, 11:51:36 pm »

Alright. I installed 'Ironhand' graphics, so I think that can help...a bit. I don't know why exactly.
Thanks for all your help.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 12:21:02 am »

Turning temperature off will usually double your FPS. 95% of the time you won't miss it, anyway. You can always turn temperature back on temporarily if you need to incinerate something with magma.

As for inspiration, it always helps me to have a project in mind. Have you beaten the HFS yet? If not, work toward that. Once you do that, think about colonizing the circus, maybe move your whole fort in there. Or maybe you'd prefer building a giant carp out of wagon wood and soap. It's really not important what you do so long as you have a goal to work toward.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with taking a break from Dwarf Fortress. When you come back there'll be a new release with tons of cool new features.

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 12:26:30 am »

I understand that Dwarf Fortress is not just a game, but a way of life. However, I have lost all inspiration to play. I have lost all knowledge that I have previously had for Dwarf Fortress, and everything else.

So my question to you all that wish to help is: Mind giving a brotha some inspiration to get back into DF and try and learn what the heck to do again?

Thanks.

A new release is somewhat near, or at least more than it was a year ago when the last one got it's wind. But you'll always find marvellous worlds of death caused by infected wounds and not enough soap near the bloody well; a flashy tower made of charcoal with lignite bins for your adventurers to throw; crocodiles caught using puppies as a breadcrumb trail; dwarves delighted to see a cabinet made with the bones of their missing children; a dog that saves the day while beheading that Forgotten Beast and thus deserves a glorified, overengineered shrine... And many, many more.

But it would be of help to know why did you lost the Dwarf Fortress spark in the first place. When was the last time you had a dry grin and sweat all over your forehead, when the sun rose bright, placid, and beautiful, and you were just bothered with scheming a new and overly complex way to get rid of all your unsold microcline mugs?

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Got ninja'd, but is really the same idea. Also, when digging for big projects you'll usually bore a lot of holes underground, so try to keep them closed with locked doors as it affects pathing, usually unavoidable with caves. Lowering your population caps before play also helps a lot.
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my first quest was to seige a nemacrcors tower i killed 3 nemacrcors the got killed by a zombie fly.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 12:26:31 am »

BREAKS?! WHAT MADNESS!?

I've actually gotten back into it in the last 25-30 minutes, thanks to you guys.

Seriously.

Frame rate was the only issue that made me despise DF, but now, hey, I've already got 2 WHOLE ROOMS!

WOOO!

And in that time I have lost 2 forts..woo...

Losing was !!Fun!!
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 04:59:53 pm »

I still have lag. Is it because of my RAM or what?

It's game breaking for me. I feel out of place looking at DF forums when I can't play fort mode. :(
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 11:45:50 am »

Get LNP, it makes changing tilesets, turning off temperature, etc. so much easier. Not to mention that it contains bugfixes and automation plugins that make managing the game much easier.

As others have said it: one of the biggest speedups can be gained by turning off temperature. If you have a low powered PC use a smaller embark location, and seal off any extra mining floors that you don't want your dwarves to access, it will help with slowdowns, because your dwarves won't try to pathfind there. If you have an older running fortress you will want to use some of the DFhack (included in LNP) cleanup features, destroying some of the accumulated junk is also good for FPS.
Another speedup can be gained by using Accelerated Modest Mod, it strips out the many material types, resulting in less memory usage. Masterwork Mod is also a great one to try, but I'd recommend that you play more vanilla game before playing it, because it's a total conversion with a LOT of new features. It's huge. Great choice though when you have mastered vanilla. Be ready for nasty surprises. :)

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 01:10:54 pm »

Don't abandon fortresses. Do whatever you can to fix problems. Oh, and drink a few gallons of beer.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 01:19:41 pm »

Don't abandon fortresses. Do whatever you can to fix problems thrust them into oblivion. Oh, and drink a few gallons of beer.


Never, ever leave the FUN aside.
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my first quest was to seige a nemacrcors tower i killed 3 nemacrcors the got killed by a zombie fly.
How on earth did you manage to do that twice?

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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 03:09:50 pm »

That's just beautiful. So many obstacles, so little time.

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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 08:45:40 pm »

I experienced the same disinterest, in fact almost right after I figured out how to play dwarf fortress I got bored with just making forts. I found the cure was to shrink my forts, create a narrative, and develop an intimate understanding of each of my little dudes. Use a 2x2 embark and set your pop cap to twenty then think up a story. Think of some defining factor that would make a fortress awesome. Make it architecturally impressive, divide it by caste, carve buildings out of an active volcano find something that sounds awesome and then do it.

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 08:31:34 pm »

If you haven't already you should read the legend of Tholtig http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tholtig

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=42702.0

That always gets me pumped for Dwarf Fortress.

Besides that you should know that the next version of DF is coming out very soon, and adventure mode will be way way way way way way way way more fun once it does so there's that.
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