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defeating demons within 10 months
« on: July 13, 2013, 01:45:42 pm »

too easy 8(
0.34.11. lots of spike traps used (I don't like caveins). 10 months from the start of the fortress.

spikes


citizens


demons


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matskuman5

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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2013, 02:07:03 pm »

You might want to change the thread title, since those are spoilers.
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2013, 04:37:14 pm »

Your strategy is well known to be an effective one (not to take away from your accomplishment), although I've never heard of anyone tackling the HFS so early. By the way, HFS means "hidden Fun stuff," and it's an acronym you can (should) use to reference demons and hell without directly giving away the surprise to new players. Also, it's possible you may have gotten an easier than average mix of demons, since everything on your list appears to be made of fire, ash, salt, or steam. Those materials all extremely easy to damage. Now, go colonize Hell! You'll hardly even have to move your fort in, since most of it isn't built yet!

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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2013, 06:35:24 pm »

Ok kids. He is a scared of clowns. So scared of them he hunted down the circus itself to kill all those nasty scary clowns. Now normally the clowns are very territorial and will try to kick anyone that tries to join the circus out.

Mine was the only one that doesn't spoil a thing since even itg said "hell".
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Re: defeating HFS within 10 months
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2013, 10:47:17 pm »

Just wait until you are on a world that gets something ridiculous like blobs made of steel (indestructible without cave-ins, and can kill dwarves very easily) as the clowns (meaning demons).
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 01:05:51 pm »

Your strategy is well known to be an effective one (not to take away from your accomplishment), although I've never heard of anyone tackling the HFS so early. By the way, HFS means "hidden Fun stuff," and it's an acronym you can (should) use to reference demons and hell without directly giving away the surprise to new players. Also, it's possible you may have gotten an easier than average mix of demons, since everything on your list appears to be made of fire, ash, salt, or steam. Those materials all extremely easy to damage. Now, go colonize Hell! You'll hardly even have to move your fort in, since most of it isn't built yet!

Just a kind of challenge.
I could have beaten this challenge within a couple of months by locking guys between two bridges.

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Just wait until you are on a world that gets something ridiculous like blobs made of steel (indestructible without cave-ins, and can kill dwarves very easily) as the clowns (meaning demons).
two bridges + steel spikes or just two bridges
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2013, 01:10:04 pm »

two bridges + steel spikes or just two bridges

Pretty sure that won't work.  There's nothing to decapitate and no way to bleed out a steel blob.
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2013, 03:13:37 pm »

can they be beaten with cumulative damage?
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2013, 03:28:25 pm »

can they be beaten with cumulative damage?

No.

Non-fleshy blob creatures are invulnerable to:
Slashing attacks (nothing to sever and no bleeding)
Blunt attacks (no bones to break)
Stabbing attacks (no organs to damage and no bleeding)
Atomsmashing (too big)
Melting (if made of something like steel)

The only thing that works is a cave-in, since those kill everything. Also, while the combat reports will claim that it's only pushing dwarves, the pushing is similar to dwarves' insta-kill kicks.

Edit: You can also kill anything by encasing it in obsidian.
Edit 2: Dragonfire should also work, if you happen to have a dragon.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2013, 03:56:48 pm by TheDarkStar »
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2013, 05:11:54 pm »

Lashers? I once thought I was screwed against a green glass thingy untill a novice lasher came along and one-shot it. (I alwas make a squad of these as soon as I get whips/scourges).

I dont have the save or any logs left so I guess I might be wrong though
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2013, 06:30:18 pm »

Lashers? I once thought I was screwed against a green glass thingy untill a novice lasher came along and one-shot it. (I alwas make a squad of these as soon as I get whips/scourges).

I dont have the save or any logs left so I guess I might be wrong though

Lashers are autofiring hammers. They are good, but still useless against blobs because they do blunt damage.
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Re: defeating demons within 10 months
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 03:24:12 am »

Lashers? I once thought I was screwed against a green glass thingy untill a novice lasher came along and one-shot it. (I alwas make a squad of these as soon as I get whips/scourges).

I dont have the save or any logs left so I guess I might be wrong though

Lashers are autofiring hammers. They are good, but still useless against blobs because they do blunt damage.

Blunt damage of a hammer with an impact size of a pin head if I remember correctly which is why they're so deadly. Not sure if I dislike lashers or archers more.
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