Toaster: Full claim. Now. You aren't telling the whole truth about your role.
He has an alibi for last night so he isn't the last mafia member. Stop voting for him.
I know. Let me work.
This is the first post of D4. Why would Scum Lenglon post this and put Scum Webadict in such a terrible spot before anything happens? Scum Lenglon could easily have claimed a track to Griffinpup from anyone else and probably have gotten them lynched. I'm all for scum bussing when it's useful, but I see absolutely no reason for this to happen. This isn't even WIFOM- there's zero gain in a bus at that point in the game.
You are calling Lenglon town and refusing to vote for her in spite of her nonsense claim and incredibly passive play throughout the game. If that isn't a gain for scum then what is?
And you aren't attacking the point being offered as a question at you and instead moving the notion to your viewpoint.
Hey, what about that time wherein Lenglon got Soli? Can you explain that? The last explanation of yours didn't.
And then on Web..honest question: could you tell me why he'd say he'd target Toaster? [Your thoughts, ma'am]
Yes, because he planned a bus with Lenglon and making a clearly false claim meant less scrutiny would be put on Lenglon's flavourclaim and night action choices. I've explained why bussing webadict is a sensible decision above (it's because Lenglon had to fake a track result).
"How how how how how?!"Tiruin has her hands up in a flurry, the fan already fallen to the ground before she calms down and relaxes her stance, a tear falling from her eye. She picks up the fan, closes her eyes, and apparently hides her face as she fans herself.You keep on forwarding Webadict planning a bus, doing a bus, executing a bus, and preferably sawing a bus
in half with his own two teeth that it killed him but not
how that makes sense in context given the list of OTHER suspects!Where is the planning and its relevance to Lenglon's flavour claim? How does it matter? Link it all because I'm blind! Look at Lenglon's night actions, and justify them ALL. Especially that note on Solifuge!
On that bus...which logic truly escapes me...I'd like to know your opinion other than making Lenglon seem squeakier clean on
how that even makes sense given Lenglon's past before then.Why in the world would Lenglon follow up on a bus, when it is only by
her word that people caught on that Webby web web was lying?
Also what is this. Proves what -1 vote?! What are you even going on at that point? It's confusing more often than not.
I'm also all for bussing, but those and
this marks inconsistency with your linking it to Lenglon.
Oops wait I just had a blindfold over here. Last paragraph. TWS says he got distracted, then killed.
We know who did the distraction [Webby web], and it would be really strange to see Lenglon's tracking skills cue Solifuge's death without any...viable reason. Toaster also targeted webby web there.
Checking. Yeah. Next...
I didn't visit anyone or..did anything past the last nights. However, on the distraction--did TWS expound on anything? Like, specifics in flavor?
He also mentioned that the girls came to listen to him, before killing. That's it though.
Jim: What did TWS do last night?
He did nothing.
Check the wording. I'd put the plurality to being a singular there, but
who would listen to someone before killing them?!Regret?
Sadness?
Anyway.
The only correlation I see with Lenglon + Webadict = that link.
Could you give details on what TWS/Webadict/You chatted about? Also answer those things above LS.
Nextly, let's say you're confirmed town on the whole basis of 'doublevoterishtown!'. Could you differentiate your suspect-points on Toaster and Lenglon? Yeah, sure the puzzle singles out people, but this is why I'm asking you all this.
Toaster has an alibi for last night. He is not a suspect at all, puzzle or not. So everything I'm saying today is pro-Lenglonscum.
I did think Toaster was scum yesterday, but that changed very early in the day because a) he has an alibi and b) the puzzle directly points to him being town.
Yeah. No.
He has a conjunctive alibi--believe either Lenglon, or Toaster. They're both linked in the way that Lenglon > Toaster > Me.
I did not receive any rose, nor did I check for any rose (because I am fancy like that to get outta bed and get out of that area where I was in).. The only note he did was where he found me in.
But...
ToasteR: You didn't answer my question to you here on that note on me.
So let me try to fix this list.zombie urist -> Jim Groovester <- Solifuge
Griffionday -> Tiruin
webadict I <-> Ottofar
Toaster -> NQT <- Lenglon
Leafsnail -> TWS <- webadict II
We have the swan sisters. Polar opposites, yet connected.
We have the cult of the Death Goddess. Innocence defying evil, and when they left, evil turned from good (Jin was originally town, then she became Jim).
We have the Young Prince (I've checked the lore on our Sigfred. He only talked muchly about the older prince, and not the younger one.) and...well, me.
Then we have the flower people! I have no idea how NQT could be a third-party, and looking at his role...it's quite strange. A survivor who has links tied to, and only now found, real roles. Roses and lilies!
But hey, let's assume that note of relevance since the context calls on it.
Few problems with that idea of the puzzle, LS: There is no constant basis. All the pairs are different. You know why I doubt your assumption? I did conclude that the puzzle does "screw over" *ahem, flutters fan* the 'last pair' by differentiating them, but I've trust in a meta way that Vector doesn't do that sort of thinking by exclusion. Also the really pointy picking out there was a factor.
Now on the matter of night action order and targeting, that's where I believe the shots go. [Also if you really wanna argue with me on the pattern - look at yourself and web and TWS. Scum KILLED TWS for some reason, and given that
one certain player (whose role
had changed into a non-killing person). Now I know that someone (TWS?) asked about the factional NK-
...Ok I'll just list the pertinent notes on this.
Stuff stuff we guessed the mafia team numbers unless they are actually 4 people :OBut rocks fall and everyone dies except scum if town can't win...which is quite strange given what Horatio told me...but it wasn't anything on protecting the Prince's life. Why can't scum just directly target the Prince?Town wincon is publicly announced by a town crier for 100gp!Relevant. -
This too.Then notes....
Ok the TWS thing?
This was it....Yeah I foolishly thought that someone would've asked if scum had the factional NK. Ahahahhaahahaha that was bad of me.
I'll just assume that there is a factional NK, and Web actually had an NK bonus after 3 strikes because he's webadict and all.
On Leafsnail. Your connection with TWS has nothing else but you're
affected by his music. Sorta like a collateral, compared to everyone else holding a different kind of bond.
On my suspectsIf I were to follow the puzzle weirdness: Lenglon.
Which holds little ground, really.
If I were to check back and see how aggressive people were in trying to completely pinpoint others: Leafsnail.
How you poke Lenglon comes as more than debating aggression.
If it were inconsistency with total flavor and stuff: Toaster...as well as his play this game in general but I'm attributing it..and my intuition is saying its more on RL than not :S (but.... gut feeling that ZU was scum without expounding on it? Or..addressing the remarks on it? Ugh.)
Griffionday suspects Toaster is lying because during N1 there is no mention of a rose in his flavor, and he reasons that because miscellaneous is higher than kill on the action resolution list, he should have received flavor of receiving the rose.
Oh, and lastly, I really am wondering why anyone doesn't really see what I claimed earlier: I can survive kills.
Discrepancy: Think on how someone would find me if I'd kill them first given how Griffy acted. :v
I had figured that people would be more astute about that point.