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[Vector]

"You do know that she must have feared for her life," Vektor says gently.

"Yes," says the Prince.  "I was weak."

"Now, now," Vektor chides him.  "If my age has taught me one thing, it's that you can't say that sort of thing.  You weren't weak.  You were just wrong."

The Prince sits sullenly for a moment.  Vektor is half worried that he will stand and rattle his sabre again, but instead the Prince just looks tired.  Some ash falls out of his hair.

"Strange things had happened before, you know," he says.  "Shortly after Uncle Claudius murdered our father, Horatio and my elder brother saw his ghost in the garden.  And it is said that in his madness, Brother spoke with the dead. . . his friends, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, were known to play at all sorts of strange games with a single gold coin they passed between them.

"And so. . . if the Gods had decided to blight my kingdom yet again, I was set upon letting them have it.  Almost."

"Oh?"

"Horatio and I had strange dreams that night.  I appeared to him and said something about being favored by a Goddess, and not to worry.  I do not know the circumstances. . . he colored, and would not speak of them.  And I dreamed of my elder brother, who squinted at me and said:

"'Little brother, stop your phony ways and
Go and be a fucking man already!
Damsels must be saved; do not stay your hand
You can not just wait 'til you feel steady!"

". . . He had a mouth on him, I see."

"Yes, well, he was always a bit of a black sheep.  Never stopped speaking in strangely accentuated verse, either.  I couldn't figure out if he was mad, melancholy, or manipulative."

"So you stood up and saved the day?"

". . . No," says the Prince.  "I read my brother's diary, because I missed him."


(Keep asking strange questions and you'll get stranger answers)

(. . . HAMLET CAULFIELD RIDES AGAIN)


VOTE COUNT

Webadict
Leafsnail - zombieurist
Tiruin
Lenglon
TheWetSheep
zombieurist - Leafsnail
Jim Groovestar
Toaster

Not voting: Webadict, Tiruin, TheWetSheep, Toaster, Lenglon, Jim Groovester

The day is scheduled to end on Monday, 12:00 noon (-8GMT).  For an extension to Wednesday, 12:00 noon (-8 GMT), four votes are necessary.

[TheWetSheep]

I am Sleeping Beauty. While dreaming I can pretty much do anything imaginable and have. I was sent here by my parents because they wanted to see if all my wild dreams could be cured by the Prince's touch (hubba hubba), but instead I was put into the marriage lottery. I control where I go and what I dream and always have and I'm not willing to give that up.

Why do you want to be the Prince's wife if it might make you lose your dreaming powers?

Checking the description of the Goddess in Solifuge's role PM, I believe the Goddess is me.

But you were only the goddess after Ottofar died? That's a bit odd. Shouldn't there have been a goddess D1 too, if Soli and ZU's roles were based on her?

So far, I think the most suspicious people, based on roleclaims, are Lenglon and Toaster. You both have clans, but... nobody else is in them?

Actually, scratch that. Webadict:

and then Jim appeared and said Prince-standing stuff, and then I woke up.

As what?

The wind between my toes? I'm not sure, all it said was that I hear someone say it, and it was carried by the wind, and I was appreciating the wind between my toes.

How does this reveal your role? Why was it so important not to divulge this in the first place?


Interesting that although we choose who to lynch, we just find the bodies.

[Lenglon]

"But, but-hey! that... that's not right at all. I mean, yeah, it's kinda weird that we're girls now, but even we don't fully understand what happened! We're both here for the Prince's sake, the same as everyone else. I... I don't know what else to say."
"I... I can't speak for Toaster, but I know that I've been unable to make even the slightest contact with the rest of my clan. and I've tried. I'm... kinda all alone here."
I'm here for the Prince's sake. I have no communication methods with the rest of my clan.

[webadict]

I am Sleeping Beauty. While dreaming I can pretty much do anything imaginable and have. I was sent here by my parents because they wanted to see if all my wild dreams could be cured by the Prince's touch (hubba hubba), but instead I was put into the marriage lottery. I control where I go and what I dream and always have and I'm not willing to give that up.

Why do you want to be the Prince's wife if it might make you lose your dreaming powers?

Checking the description of the Goddess in Solifuge's role PM, I believe the Goddess is me.

But you were only the goddess after Ottofar died? That's a bit odd. Shouldn't there have been a goddess D1 too, if Soli and ZU's roles were based on her?

So far, I think the most suspicious people, based on roleclaims, are Lenglon and Toaster. You both have clans, but... nobody else is in them?

Actually, scratch that. Webadict:

and then Jim appeared and said Prince-standing stuff, and then I woke up.

As what?

The wind between my toes? I'm not sure, all it said was that I hear someone say it, and it was carried by the wind, and I was appreciating the wind between my toes.

How does this reveal your role? Why was it so important not to divulge this in the first place?


Interesting that although we choose who to lynch, we just find the bodies.

First of all, wtf is this clan thing?

Secondly, uh, what? I've minimalised as much of my flavor as possible in order to avoid revealing my role. In fact, anyone clever should be able to figure out what my role is from my flavor claim.

Thirdly, Jim became a Sleeping Goddess when Solifuge died as well. Wouldn't it make more sense for roles to be modified when one of the set is modified, as opposed to a seemingly random role?

[Tiruin]

PFP - Love Vector so much.
Questions~

[...]

I have three one-shot actions, which take the form of songs I can play.
[...]
I can cause all inspections to go through.
[...]
N2 I used the 3rd action. I fell asleep, and drifted off all the way back home. I saw my mother who brought me food. She was extremely old, and I started to wonder if she was my mother at all. Then she looked at me and said in perfect Danish that she was Jim and loyal to the prince.
[...]
Something strikes me as interesting, ZU. Why would two mathematicians be following a goddess?


Now time to do a more exhaustive reread.

Ok, 3 things.

1. Why would something hinder inspections? That's pretty much a very subjective one-shot there. Unless it's connected (like, town vs scum numbers. I'm pretty sure there's a third-party; or if Jim is, then there is another one other than he.)
2. ...Danish? Look, I know that Vector is a polyglot (Yes she's awesome :I) but..you're also Danish? And why Danish?
3. Solifuge was a mathematician?

ZU:
Tiruin is sad.
"Your words speak of brevity. Talk more. Who are you. What did you do. What had happened on the days wherein your protected the people. Did you answer why you did so?"

-snip snoop-

First of all, wtf is this clan thing?

Secondly, uh, what? I've minimalised as much of my flavor as possible in order to avoid revealing my role. In fact, anyone clever should be able to figure out what my role is from my flavor claim.

Thirdly, Jim became a Sleeping Goddess when Solifuge died as well. Wouldn't it make more sense for roles to be modified when one of the set is modified, as opposed to a seemingly random role?

> Search the word 'clan' in the searchengine. Lenglon and Toaster claimed...flower clans. Which I thoroughly suspect. Well, thoroughly suspect that they're in league together.

> Why should you not claim it?

> ...My role has never been touched. Why did Jim become a Goddess, exactly? What's your thoughts on it? Same goes to Leafsnail, Toaster, Lenglon and TWS...And ZU.

Interesting that although we choose who to lynch, we just find the bodies.

We can put Ottofar's death as a red herring as it was by divine intervention that he died (unless..a modkill = that O_o) ANYWAY, bits of organ and flesh were found on the decedent's body, which was atop the White Swan's grave.

...My imagination shudders at what that was.

I'd love to ask Horatio or the Prince if there was any sign of desecration at the grave, but I'm busy D:

N1 I did nothing. My flavour involved me finding the Prince as he was going to attend to the sick Horatio.

Interesting, dat one.

Expound on what happened, and what was the flavor? (Paraphrase it.)

[Tiruin]

Also, ZU: You shrugged off LS' accusations as you being lazy and..other detrimental adjectives and evaded me querying you on why you're like that.

Why.

[Tiruin]

*ahem* darnit thoughts.

PFP - Love Vector so much.
Questions~

[...]

I have three one-shot actions, which take the form of songs I can play.
[...]
I can cause all inspections to go through.
[...]
N2 I used the 3rd action. I fell asleep, and drifted off all the way back home. I saw my mother who brought me food. She was extremely old, and I started to wonder if she was my mother at all. Then she looked at me and said in perfect Danish that she was Jim and loyal to the prince.
[...]
Something strikes me as interesting, ZU. Why would two mathematicians be following a goddess?


Now time to do a more exhaustive reread.

Ok, 3 things.

1. Why would something hinder inspections? That's pretty much a very subjective one-shot there. Unless it's connected (like, town vs scum numbers. I'm pretty sure there's a third-party; or if Jim is, then there is another one other than he.)
[...]

Also why use that skill instead of the others?

[webadict]

> Why should you not claim it?

That's not the question I have to answer. The point is you have to convince me there's sufficient reason to claim anything. I gave flavor because there were good reasons brought forth. I do not see the same for claiming roles.

[Tiruin]

*ahem*
Good guys must work together and share information. While I'd agree that it'd make you a bit more obvious to scum, it would also serve as a cover up that you don't want it being told.

..Which was my impression when you were talking to Jim back then about that dream. That was flavor. And unless it wasn't, then it's game-related.

And thematically, it is the question you have to answer. Which...you did.

I gave flavor because there were good reasons brought forth. I do not see the same for claiming roles.

However it is preceded by a very conflicting detail.

The point is you have to convince me there's sufficient reason to claim anything.

Why shouldn't you?

[Leafsnail]

> ...My role has never been touched. Why did Jim become a Goddess, exactly? What's your thoughts on it? Same goes to Leafsnail, Toaster, Lenglon and TWS...And ZU.

I'm pretty sure Jim was always a Goddess.  It's just her secret team of espers disciples were originally there to restrain her powers, and without Solifuge the restraints weakened.

@TheWetSheep: Why didn't you use a power night one?  Specifically, the power to block nightkills.

I'd be fairly happy with lynching ZU today, still, if we are unable to fully solve the puzzle.  Thematically it would make sense for the Goddess to have one evil and one good disciple.

[TheWetSheep]

Webadict:

Secondly, uh, what? I've minimalised as much of my flavor as possible in order to avoid revealing my role. In fact, anyone clever should be able to figure out what my role is from my flavor claim.

Why are you so worried about your role being revealed?

Thirdly, Jim became a Sleeping Goddess when Solifuge died as well. Wouldn't it make more sense for roles to be modified when one of the set is modified, as opposed to a seemingly random role?

I guess, but that wasn't really my point. It doesn't make sense for them to have had to follow a goddess at a point when there wasn't one.

Tiruin:

1. Why would something hinder inspections? That's pretty much a very subjective one-shot there. Unless it's connected (like, town vs scum numbers. I'm pretty sure there's a third-party; or if Jim is, then there is another one other than he.)

I guess it's just an aid to make sure that inspects aren't roleblocked or something. Yeah, it's not that useful.

2. ...Danish? Look, I know that Vector is a polyglot (Yes she's awesome :I) but..you're also Danish? And why Danish?

I don't know. I guess I'm Danish. I haven't actually asked Vector that yet.

Vector: Which country are we in?

3. Solifuge was a mathematician?

Hm, I guess not. I think that my thinking he was was because of something someone else said. I can't remember who or when, though.

Interesting that although we choose who to lynch, we just find the bodies.

We can put Ottofar's death as a red herring as it was by divine intervention that he died (unless..a modkill = that O_o) ANYWAY, bits of organ and flesh were found on the decedent's body, which was atop the White Swan's grave.

...My imagination shudders at what that was.

I'd love to ask Horatio or the Prince if there was any sign of desecration at the grave, but I'm busy D:

What are you saying here?

N1 I did nothing. My flavour involved me finding the Prince as he was going to attend to the sick Horatio.

Interesting, dat one.

Expound on what happened, and what was the flavor? (Paraphrase it.)

I was sitting on the steps of the Great Hall tuning my instrument. The prince walked past, then came back with a wet cloth and basin, to tend to Horatio. I asked if he needed help, but he declined. He stayed a bit longer, watching me play, then thanked me for offering and told me to sleep well.

PPE:

Also why use that skill instead of the others?

I didn't want to stop protects, and I thought there might be a better time to use the one that's actually really useful.

Leafsnail:

They're made of iron and were bound to my feet as punishment for some unspecified thing I didn't do a long time ago.

In any case, I checked and my cursed shoes are there because I once cheated on a (female) lover.  Apparently that isn't too relevant to the game though.

Did you do it or didn't you?

PPE:

I'm pretty sure Jim was always a Goddess.  It's just her secret team of espers disciples were originally there to restrain her powers, and without Solifuge the restraints weakened.

Interesting that you know a lot about it. What makes you think this?

@TheWetSheep: Why didn't you use a power night one?  Specifically, the power to block nightkills.

A very good question that you should probably ask Griffinpup. I replaced in after N1.

I'd be fairly happy with lynching ZU today, still, if we are unable to fully solve the puzzle.  Thematically it would make sense for the Goddess to have one evil and one good disciple.

Only fairly happy? Hasn't ZU been your no. 1 scumpick for a while?

[Leafsnail]

Did you do it or didn't you?

My role PM suggested no and that I didn't want to remember what event led to my cursed shoes.  When I asked Vector to have me recall she said that yes, I had breached someone's trust.  I think the role PM being wrong was due to my character's repression of the memory.

Interesting that you know a lot about it. What makes you think this?

Because that's how it works in the anime the sleeping goddess role is taken from (and Vector knows this).  It also seems like the obvious conclusion to draw if people are following a goddess who doesn't realize she is one.

A very good question that you should probably ask Griffinpup. I replaced in after N1.

Ok then.  Why didn't you use the nightkill blocker on night two?

Only fairly happy? Hasn't ZU been your no. 1 scumpick for a while?

Yeah.  But I'd rather work out the puzzle, since Vector has stated that doing so would result in a definite town win.

[Vector]

You're in Denmark, of course.  Vektor's bar is in England.

[Jim Groovester]

Why do you want to be the Prince's wife if it might make you lose your dreaming powers?

This isn't the issue. The issue is that my parents want it removed, and they think sending me to the Prince will cure me.

I think no such thing. And I don't want it removed anyway.

But you were only the goddess after Ottofar died? That's a bit odd. Shouldn't there have been a goddess D1 too, if Soli and ZU's roles were based on her?

I believe I have always been the Goddess. I just didn't know it yet. And something happened where I suddenly became Super Dream Princess.

Interesting that although we choose who to lynch, we just find the bodies.

So who's doing the killing?

I think this is important enough that we do more than just mention it in passing.

Vector: Which country are we in?

Look at all these Hamlet references!

Really, what country could this be!?

It's a mystery!

I can cause all inspections to go through.

. . .

1. Why would something hinder inspections? That's pretty much a very subjective one-shot there. Unless it's connected (like, town vs scum numbers. I'm pretty sure there's a third-party; or if Jim is, then there is another one other than he.)

Moreover, why is your power something that prevents failure in only a limited number of cases?

This is kind of suspect.

> ...My role has never been touched. Why did Jim become a Goddess, exactly? What's your thoughts on it? Same goes to Leafsnail, Toaster, Lenglon and TWS...And ZU.

I'm pretty sure Jim was always a Goddess.  It's just her secret team of espers disciples were originally there to restrain her powers, and without Solifuge the restraints weakened.

You mean the assassin nun? Who nowhere in her role PM mentions anything about making sure the Goddess' power remains restrained?

Definitely fits totally yeah.

Thematically it would make sense for the Goddess to have one evil and one good disciple.

Uh, how? If they're my disciples they should be working towards the same goals I have.

[Leafsnail]

Yeah, I guess you're right mostly.  But if you read Solifuge's role PM it implies she originally intended to fight the Prince to protect you, and it was only because she fell in love upon seeing him that she didn't.  So if ZU didn't do that then he'd be mafia.