Did you go insane at some point?
I'm seriously starting to wonder.
Haha, no. You're just so incredibly obvious is all. I don't know if anyone else really sees it, but you have really fallen in terms of scumplay. Probably because it's a lot harder to hide it while being a princess. Usually, you can hide behind a rather aggressive wall, but it's a little harder now that you can't be as aggressive as usual. Oh well, what can you do? (The answer is try.)
First, show where the justification is flimsy.
Alright, let's start with the part where you think it's a good idea to lynch players you don't suspect.
Let's also stop there, since that's all that needs to be said.
Because in a game where the town win by finding scum and lynching them, it should be really obvious that spending lynches on players you don't suspect is counterproductive.
Haha, that's all? Man, I was hoping you'd make an actual case. Yours is just so droll. You're not even trying.
Why? That's the question you haven't answered. I have answered why I'd rather lynch Griffionday Today rather than having to deal with him later. If she doesn't pick up the slack, she's a burden on the Town. If she's enough of a burden on the Town, then she's basically scum. At BEST, she's a meatshield. At worst, she's actively killing Town. I'd rather have someone that makes a good argument.
But, I guess the point is moot now as I can finally vote you. You've finally started maybe trying? Because I haven't seen anything like that yet. Maybe next post? Because this game isn't fun when you're playing against drones.
Second, please explain in greater detail how it is scummy. I don't believe it is self-explanatory to everyone watching, especially since you pointed out that no justification at all would be valid. Therefore, there must be a point where it begins to be scummy.
It provides an easy cover for scum.
Instead of scumhunting, they can just vote for people with bad cases! All under the altruistic guise of critiquing them under threat of lynch.
Truly there's no possible way any member of the scum team would possibly abuse that to avoid engaging in the more difficult task of pretending to scumhunt.
You think you were scumhunting? What'd you do, RV RangerCado and then sit around telling him how bad he was? Oh wait, that actually happened, and you haven't really done anything since. You complained the game was slow, didn't fix that. You told people that you were allowed to ask stupid pointless questions, while also complaining about RP. So... Yeah, that's your game summary right now. Pretty depressing. That's why I think you're scum. Because you're just not participating. You're activelurking. RVS questions when people are voting for real. RVSing RangerCado and not really caring about the results of that. I'm actually glad you're voting me, because then you'll get a billion more chances to show everyone you're scum.
See why I want you to try now? Because you haven't in the two weeks we've been playing. But, hey, now's your chance! Feel free to stand up at any point! Literally no one is stopping you.
Additionally, I hadn't had a scum suspect until recently, so I'd rather have used my vote on trying to make a player I didn't think was scum do better. Of course, you should know that, you asked me that question! But, alas, I don't believe you cared about the answer. In fact, Toaster's the one who ended up resolving the answer. You... just sorta asked more RVS questions.
Why do you believe it is acceptable to allow bad cases in any game at all?
Because bad cases and punishing them is not the point of the game of mafia.
Who do you believe is Town?
I haven't seen anything in this game from any player that makes me think they're town since everybody's activity has been dismal and their scumhunting underwhelming. For the most part, my opinion on everybody is neutral.
You're scummy though.
Really? Ah, see, that's where you and I must play different games. To me, NQT, Griffionday, Toaster, and Solifuge (though, she's the least likely) are Town. I can understand why you'd think no one is participating. It probably comes from your own mindset. You haven't participated, so you feel like no one else has. So, it's not surprising that you don't have a single clue who is town or who is scum. Mostly because you just don't need to care.
Maybe you want to try now, hmm?
Why do you believe this is about new players at all?
Believe what about new players?
Me trying to improve Griffionday's case isn't because he's new. It's because he's playing the game. This isn't about helping a new player at all. I'll help anyone. Heck, hopefully you start trying, so I at least get a challenge. Maybe I'll help you do that? Or, maybe, you'll sit around doing nothing. Doing something for two weeks tends to make it a pattern, I hear.
Overall, I have this to say:
You haven't done anything special. This includes scumhunting.
You should try. Seriously, please let me think you're trying.
<-- My face, seeing Jim not try as he votes me with little provided reasoning or explanation.
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<-- My face, when I get a competent opponent.
Current face =
Hrmm... I agree with Webadict to a degree in that town people can be anti-town (zoomzoll in MasonsMafiaHackers) but not really here.
This is undeniably true, but are they worth lynching over scum suspects?
Let me run a quick function, just really quick.
listOfGames = allGames.find(stupidDay1MistakesThatScrewOverLylo);
print(listOfGames.contains(allGames.containsPlayer(Org));
run
true
Stupid Day 1 mistakes that are never fixed will wreck havoc later in the game. This is because suspicions raise as the Days go by, and when that one player who made such a stupid mistake on Day 1 is still alive at Day 4, people think "Better lynch that girl!" If Griffionday is allowed to continue on, she'll be lynched anyway. I'm just trying to get her to change now, either with her own shift or with her own death. I kind of care which, actually, since I don't believe she's scum, but I'm willing to watch her die. My conscious will remain clean. Or empty. One of those two.
Regardless, please try harder. Or hard. Or even just try.
Webadict:
My goodness, Griffionday, you're not getting it.
Apparently not in the slightest.
To shove with full force is foolish.
Could we just go with that one in the future so I clearly know the whole case you're leveling against me all at once?
I do have one question though:
Why would I chainsaw defend NQT? She's doing just fine by letting you talk.
I've no idea WHY you would do it; but isn't the definition of chainsawing "pressuring someone with the purpose of getting them to unvote a third party"? As in, pretty much exactly what you are doing? So why ARE you chainsawing?
You were tunneling your target. You weren't listening to other people. You had a bad case. You had bad evidence. You fell into a trap. Overall, your case had too many holes, and it needed to be reevaluated. If you refused to change, you were going to be lynched, whether Today or maybe Day 2 or 3. The point is, you WERE going to get lynched by doing what you were doing.
And... Okay, I was unintentionally defending NQT, you got me there. But, the main reason wasn't because NQT was Town. There are plenty of cases on people I think are Town. The main reason was because your reasoning was flawed, and you were fighting as hard as you could to get people to see you were right. You shoved so hard that you tunneled past any information that might've led you to change your mind. Hopefully, you start a case with a more open view. You are free to pursue it to the ends of the Earth, but don't overlook the information in front of you.
Come on, girl, get it together. At least you're doing better than Jim Groovester. (He hasn't even tried the whole game.)
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