@Jim: honestly, no. I don't think she's scum. It's too... convenient. I suspect both you and Leafsnail, but I can't prove anything just yet. Hence why I want her to make a better case. But, I can't make her do better, and I'm okay with lynching her if she doesn't want to. The point is that regardless, she's a liability to the town if she doesn't improve.
Maybe it sounds scummy, but allowing bad cases to exist is a far greater threat. Plus, I doubt I have the evidence to lynch the two of you. Leafsnail maybe, but I don't have the resources to do that right now. You I can deal with later.
unvote vote webadict. What the hell are you doing?
There are two people you regard as scummy. Yet instead of making any real effort to attack either of them you're just attacking their cases on someone. And what's more, you're GOING ALONG WITH TWO PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE SCUM due to some vague policylynch bullshit.
Questions:
- Why are you voting for someone you think is town, even though you could swing the vote?
- If you're after policy lynch, wouldn't it be better to hit a lurker than someone who is actually contributing?
- Why are you not attempting to lynch to one of the players you suspect?
I believe I have corrected your post, but if you meant something else, please let me know.
Policy lynch? I think you're using that word wrong. I'm not proposing a policy lynch. In fact, I would very much not like to lynch her. But, I refuse to let her continue making a crappy case, and if I have to lynch her, then oh well, I guess she might learn something from it.
But, I'm assuming you don't really care about that. I'm thinking big picture here, aren't I? Let's stick with the little picture. Little picture (okay, maybe slightly smaller picture) is this: She isn't lynched, but she doesn't learn. She is kept alive until some Day in the future, where people will think "Hey, why didn't we lynch her Day 1 again?" And then she'll be lynched. Then, she'll have accomplished nothing, we'll have lost a Day later in the game, where Days are far more important, and she'll have learned her lesson way later.
The littler picture is that I might be wrong, and I'd rather not end up doubting myself later, so Today is a great Day to remove both a player that is making a poor case and appearing scummy to everyone.
The littlest picture is that I'm trying to get her to do something productive Today. If she doesn't, then she gets lynched, regardless of how town I believe her to be.
I don't know where you got the idea that I was being vague about it. Indeed, I've told her multiple times what would allow me to unvote her and allow her to be a functioning member of the Town. I don't believe I've been vague in explaining this either. If anything, I was simply not asked.
As for voting a lurker... really? Man, YOU'RE a lurker. Your posts are below average in just about all the important aspects. If it makes you feel better, I'll certainly vote you. I've got no problem with that. I have never not had a point to voting as I do, but voting someone for lurking would be stupidly lame. I'd rather they got modkilled. Which is simply a better option.
Now for the third point... The easiest answer is that there isn't enough evidence to do that. The best answer is that there isn't enough GOOD evidence to do it. I can certainly bring up your shoddy posting, contribution, understanding, and overall play, but you'll coast by making minimal effort until at least Tomorrow, posting things such as "PFP busy cant answrr" which I can't verify or counter, kill me Tonight, and then pretend nothing happened. Or WIFOM it. Or just make the Town retarded, as usual.
The point is that I'd rather I fixed a problem we're having now that will continue to reoccur while I'm still alive to do it. I used to think this game was winnable by yourself. But it's not. No matter what team, alignment, or role you have in a game, you need to rely on other players. The players I need to rely on just happen to be the Town. And if they can't shape up their actions, then I wasn't going to win with flawless arguments anyway.
Riddle me that, Batman.