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[PanH]

Actually, it's known that Syria had/has WMDs. Syria was one of the country in the UN council at the moment of the inspections in Iraq, and considered, like the majority of the council, that Iraq was dealing relatively well with the destruction of the WMDs.

[kingfisher1112]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Sedition

Treason

Conspiracy

Terrorism

2+2=4

Unpatriotic

Fundamentally mental

Criminal

THE RED PILLS ARE BLUE

Bad goy

The future is so bright I don't need eyes to see it

IT'S HABBEDING

Reported, flagged, blocked, checked, contacted NSA, FBI, MI5, Emperor Obama, the Queen, bought 10 boxes of methylphenidate and gave all the local children a lack of imagination, ban this sick filth and I thought Bay12 were progressives.

I've finally cottoned on to you, LW. Finally...
EDIT: Guns are going to be a sticker for the southern states. Other than that? I don't think anybody in the current world can give two fucks anymore. People are slowly waking up, just not quickly enough.

[mainiac]

dissent towards the American government is rising.

Intangibles fall into two categories, those that are constantly getting more popular then ever and those that are getting more unpopular then ever.  Extrapolating this trend tells us that once upon a time apple pie and the american flag were viewed with horror by average joes while death and taxes were adored like a kid loves Santa Claus.  Either that or talking in generalities about vague platitudes tells us nothing.

If you want to actually talk about tangibles there are plenty of them available thanks to groups like this: http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx?ref=logo

[Loud Whispers]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Sedition

Treason

Conspiracy

Terrorism

2+2=4

Unpatriotic

Fundamentally mental

Criminal

THE RED PILLS ARE BLUE

Bad goy

The future is so bright I don't need eyes to see it

IT'S HABBEDING

Reported, flagged, blocked, checked, contacted NSA, FBI, MI5, Emperor Obama, the Queen, bought 10 boxes of methylphenidate and gave all the local children a lack of imagination, ban this sick filth and I thought Bay12 were progressives.

I've finally cottoned on to you, LW. Finally...
EDIT: Guns are going to be a sticker for the southern states. Other than that? I don't think anybody in the current world can give two fucks anymore. People are slowly waking up, just not quickly enough.

I think it's inevitable that we're all seeing world governments turn into fascist and authoritarian systems alongside the rise of corporatism. Could last a hundred years or a thousand, but just how much can anyone do?
You all are a bunch of terrorists anyways. The control on the American people, soon the world, is absolute.

[misko27]

I doubt the continent will care. After all, on a geological timescale it's almost like you don't exist.

Geologically speaking, if you compressed the earth's history into 1 day, the entirety of the human existence is a couple of seconds. By comparison, Dinosaurs held sway for about 3 quarters of a hour. Microbes ruled for at least 2/3 of all history (it is sometimes wise to remind ourselves that we are, from the Point Of View of the microbes, an interesting experiment. There is no rule that said larger life needed to rise. We have had life on this planet for almost as long as it's been solid, but visible life remains a relatively recent addition.


As for dissent, there simply remains no real movement to change things beyond the people who already wanted to change things. The Tea party is literally a identifier and a group for raising cash, no more. The left is, doing what they usually do. The Majority remains unchanged, retaining it's velocity and momentum, in many ways untouched by the battles that occur for policy that happen. Gay marriage has been pushed by increased acceptance by the majority; the major, real progress occurring now, with, at the end of the day, policies pushed by both sides of the spectrum only slowing or speeding Policies in various areas attempting to catch up to public opinion.

Change is occurring in the small day to day things, in the small day to day battles, and the demographic shifts over time. For right now, to say anything approaching a radical shift is coming is simply untrue.

[Guardian G.I.]

In my opinion, the rise of dissent among some Americans is not an extraordinary thing. It's just a fluctuation of public approval of Obama and the current American government.

[Bdthemag]

In my opinion, the rise of dissent among some Americans is not an extraordinary thing. It's just a fluctuation of public approval of Obama and the current American government.

Exactly. Everyone will forget about everything going on with the government, and the next series of good events that happen under his administration will make people love him again. Really, with any halfway decent president that's elected, people are initially extremely optimistic and will to praise. Halfway through though, they'll got to the phase where they're the opposite, followed by newfound optimism as something goes right again.

[EnigmaticHat]

I think that people are dissatisfied, but not dissatisfied enough to do anything extreme.  US history will probably remember 2000-2020 (to arbitrarily pick a couple of decades) as a period of pessimism, but not a period of upheaval.  Nor will it be remembered as a period of suffering on the level of, say, the Great Depression.

The current state of our government is preventing improving the current state of our government from the inside, and the current state of our country isn't near bad enough to justify a revolution or truly determined protests/riots.  So I imagine things are going to stay roughly the same for the near future.

[ggamer]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal repiblicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partyers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

[misko27]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

[Loud Whispers]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

Still waiting for the eventual right-wing party that goes so right-wing it's left-wing.

[Digital Hellhound]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

Still waiting for the eventual right-wing party that goes so right-wing it's left-wing.

Y'mean, socialism combined with conservative nationalism? Like, some sort of... National Socialism?

[scrdest]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

I was pretty damn confused when I read about 'ethical republicans'. Quite amusing if you consider the implications.

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

Still waiting for the eventual right-wing party that goes so right-wing it's left-wing.

Y'mean, socialism combined with conservative nationalism? Like, some sort of... National Socialism?

Touché.

[Bdthemag]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

Still waiting for the eventual right-wing party that goes so right-wing it's left-wing.

Y'mean, socialism combined with conservative nationalism? Like, some sort of... National Socialism?

National Socialism? Never heard of it. What could possibly go wrong?

[Kaferian]

well no shit there's dissent in the US, at least on the political scale. Any person inside the Republican party (and most outside of it) will tell you that the only reason that republicans are all one party is because they would be squashed by the democrats if they weren't.

Shit, you have fiscal republicans, ethical republicans, libertarians, tea partiers, as well as any minor variation on those values.

Remember there are people who believe the only reason they got squashed in the Election was that they weren't conservative enough. Also, Ethical conservatism is referred to as Social conservative.

Still waiting for the eventual right-wing party that goes so right-wing it's left-wing.

Y'mean, socialism combined with conservative nationalism? Like, some sort of... National Socialism?

National Socialism? Never heard of it. What could possibly go wrong?

I'll put this into words most people will understand: Nazism