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Author Topic: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?  (Read 13782 times)

Vattic

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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2013, 02:38:31 am »

That's good to know. Didn't sound like them to make the place smaller.

Are curios really that bad? I've not played since before their introduction, but thought they sounded a neat solution to the problem of macros.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2013, 03:28:54 am »

Are curios really that bad? I've not played since before their introduction, but thought they sounded a neat solution to the problem of macros.
I've heard that they're not that bad if you get far enough. The problem is the "getting far enough" - I just plain run out of things to do thirty minutes in while I'm waiting for cone cows and the like to finish digesting. So I go do something else, or I try to find something to do in-game; but there's only so much you can do with the starter discovery LP before you find yourself running in front of a boar to try and make something interesting happen.

This might be mitigated by being part of a group that has a stash of decent curios they're willing to share, but there's still that half an hour or two of just plain waiting for your LP so you can get the skills you need to actually do shit - which still completely ruins the game's flow because you can't do much of anything worthwhile during that time. And of course it's all for naught if you run afoul of one of the game's many colonies of assholes.

And as for macros, on the surface it seems like curios would actually be easier to macro. Granted, there's probably less returns than there were for deforestation back in world 3, but it would be a heck of a lot safer since curios process while you're logged out - so while you're not playing , you can just run a macro with a timer that changes your curios for ones in your inventory and logs you out when the curios aren't being switched. Or you could just constantly run that sort of thing on an alt and throw curios at it every so often.

So it may have solved the problem of macros leaving massive groves of stumps everywhere, but it probably didn't do shit for macros giving people more LP. And in exchange, it made it so you spend a half hour of the first bit of the game just sitting on your ass waiting for LP. Maybe longer if you're aiming for certain skills.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2013, 04:52:32 am »

That's good to know. Didn't sound like them to make the place smaller.

Are curios really that bad? I've not played since before their introduction, but thought they sounded a neat solution to the problem of macros.
Some curiosities are real bad but there are some pretty good ones that require minimal investment to use - feather dusters, primitive dolls, bark boats, toy chariots, wishbones, ladybugs, ant soldiers, ant queens, emerald dragonflies, these are some of the ones you can easily obtain early on in the game and in my opinion that makes them some of the best. People still go crazy over flotsam however, and you cannot go wrong with Itsy Bitsy's web, a lucky rabbit's foot or even a golden egg after a fair bit of investment. Stay away from the cat gold, the seer's bones and the leather balls however as those are some of the worst early on in the game, and don't bother with horrible knots unless you've got a ton of string and can get a ton more - flax or hemp crops make horrible knots more feasible, but you're better off using that plant fiber for fiber cloth, fishing rods or straw dolls in my opinion.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2013, 02:57:15 am »

I can see how annoying it would be early on.

You say that they'd be easier to macro, but could you make a macro that finds new curios? It's just the problem before was LP for no effort through macros.

MadMalkavian my question was less specific and more about the mechanic in general. Cheers for the detail, but I can't see myself having enough time to play again for a long while.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2013, 10:05:23 pm »

I can see how annoying it would be early on.

You say that they'd be easier to macro, but could you make a macro that finds new curios? It's just the problem before was LP for no effort through macros.

MadMalkavian my question was less specific and more about the mechanic in general. Cheers for the detail, but I can't see myself having enough time to play again for a long while.
That's understandable as I'm kind of burnt out on this game for right now as well. I'm kind of in the mood for something a little more linear myself.

Is... is that the default client?
Nothing wrong with the default client. At least it doesn't religiously use cheat codes like the Enders client everyone has a hard-on for. I'd say playing with the default client takes more skill while playing with the Enders client makes Haven and Hearth more like Farmville.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2013, 12:16:04 am »

The marchers are back on this world...we took a break for w6, but we are going strong now.  Three villages and about 20 players.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2013, 01:34:35 am »

The marchers are back on this world...we took a break for w6, but we are going strong now.  Three villages and about 20 players.
I joined up with Seriyu's village but that one ended up falling apart. Then I joined up with UristMcDwarf's village and it fell apart as well. If I join up with one of the other villages it better not fall apart otherwise I'm really going to consider joining /vg/'s villages next time. Just give me a few days to not feel so burnt out over the whole thing and I'll see to joining with one of the other villages.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2013, 08:09:17 am »

Wohohoho! That is you? I'm near Brodgar. and that is undoubtly a familiar looking runestone! Really I just started helping Maurice out with his new fangled mine hole. A dwarf's gotta have a location for his vocation after all. . . gwahahaha! Name's Zultan Chivay, Great grandson of Zoltan Chivay, at yer service! *Bows humbly* Praise be to the Birch Lord, giver of stout hardwood.

EDIT: Now recalling where you are stationed, you are exactly due east of where Brodgar is (but ye already know that for sure). Yes I like to drop that little thing wherever ah like whenever I feel gifty.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 08:24:13 am by Bartholomew The Pious »
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2013, 09:50:09 am »

Wohohoho! That is you? I'm near Brodgar. and that is undoubtly a familiar looking runestone! Really I just started helping Maurice out with his new fangled mine hole. A dwarf's gotta have a location for his vocation after all. . . gwahahaha! Name's Zultan Chivay, Great grandson of Zoltan Chivay, at yer service! *Bows humbly* Praise be to the Birch Lord, giver of stout hardwood.

EDIT: Now recalling where you are stationed, you are exactly due east of where Brodgar is (but ye already know that for sure). Yes I like to drop that little thing wherever ah like whenever I feel gifty.
Nice to meet you. I felt a bit odd after seeing that. Anyway, the game is too grindy, so I think I wont play more...

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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2013, 11:47:08 am »

Posting to follow I guess, but I edited the first page of the original thread to remove anything relating to my village ((which afaik wasn't dead....))  But whatever.  Normally you should pm the OP of the old threads first and ask if they can edit the first post instead of making another redundant thread.
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2013, 02:58:57 pm »

Posting to follow I guess, but I edited the first page of the original thread to remove anything relating to my village ((which afaik wasn't dead....))  But whatever.  Normally you should pm the OP of the old threads first and ask if they can edit the first post instead of making another redundant thread.

wow such passive agressive
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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2013, 04:52:44 am »

I have joined Brodgar! Just to bump the topic. Community is really rewarding, depending on how well you give and take with your valuables. To conclude this, I am on me way to make a name for meself around the town. I am proud to be a Brodgarian.
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~Haven & Hearth has always been a terrible game with great promise. That promise kind of faded away, and now it's mainly a way for a few dedicated scumbags to annoy the few new people who drift in.~

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Re: Is Haven and Hearth still considered a dirty word around here?
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2013, 10:01:44 pm »

I have joined Brodgar! Just to bump the topic. Community is really rewarding, depending on how well you give and take with your valuables. To conclude this, I am on me way to make a name for meself around the town. I am proud to be a Brodgarian.
Several people likened Brodgar to Detroit after someone posted this screenshot on /vg/.

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Do you find this to be the case in light of this imagery or in spite of this imagery? I ask because I might head towards Brodgar if I decide that when getting back into the game I bore with the whole hermitage thing as I might eventually. Also I've never been to Detroit. Is it lovely this time of the year?
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