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[GreatWyrmGold]

I'd rather have 7 Wealth, or at least goods approximately worth such.

[Toaster]

That's what a BM costs you from the trader, isn't it?  What is your scale of worth?

[Mephansteras]

Mmmm, I don't think so. That assumes that it's necessary for every phase to want to be played every turn. I don't see any problem with the occasional turn where everyone wants to do the same thing. Survey might need buffing slightly, although it still sees some use.  The other two are played regularly whenever someone wants them to happen, which is pretty often. Production certainly doesn't need a boost, since it's critical to progress the game at all.

You misunderstand. If I want a production done, I can either play it or pray/agree that someone else does. +1 W is a completely replaceable bonus. Build's play-bonus is completely irreplaceable, since the possibility of immediatly beginning production in the building is far too beneficial. Thus, if I want to have a staffed building, I can only play build - if I don't, I will lose at least one production cycle (if org is played on the same turn). If you don't want to buff production, then at least nerf build to something along the lines of 'the building autostaffes at the beginning of next turn if you aren't the one who played it'.

Well, production's bonus is specifically small because it is the action that pretty much everyone is going to want to happen every turn. It's never useless, while most of the others are only situationally useful to play. Survey is the only other exception, but it is intended to be a supplemental play. I'm not quite happy with the way the two play off one another, as someone who plays Production the same turn someone else plays Survey ends up getting the same advantage. Hmm...I could make it so that you can play one building for 'free'. 1 Food is roughly 1 wealth, so the balance is about the same, but that makes playing Production a bit nicer while keeping survey's advantage distinct.

Build might need to be nerfed a bit, since you're right that if you want to build something that turn you almost always want to play Build. I'm not convinced that it is a problem, though, since it works well with the overall aspect of watching to see what other players are likely to do. Also, staffing a building immediately is only helpful if you're actually going to be able to pay to use the building that turn. While you often can, I've noticed that most of you are at a farms deficit and generally only use some of your buildings each turn.

It's a good discussion point, though, and something I definitely need to watch.

[GreatWyrmGold]

That's what a BM costs you from the trader, isn't it?  What is your scale of worth?

Six, actually. And as I have the capacity to manufacture my own...
Something for Basic Goods or another Farm would be useful, though. Something like...oh, Basic Machines.
...Yeah, I guess that would work.

And yeah, some way to nerf Build might be nice, as well as something to buff Production. The Production idea you suggested sounds good; no idea about Build though.

[Toaster]

I like the Production idea.  As I said in my phase submission PM...

Survey.  I'll eat my hat if no one does production, and it's a net gain (+2W instead of +1W) for me if no one else does survey.

It also makes the Production bonus gain or lose value based on the trade environment, which I think makes the choice more interesting.

[PyroDesu]

Survey: +1 Wealth

Production: +1 Wealth
Farms Produce: +3 Food
1 Harvester Produces: -1 Food, +1 Basic Raw
Goods Factory Produces: -1 Food, -1 Basic Raw, +1 Basic Good
Machine Factory Produces: -1 Food, -1 Basic Good, +1 Basic Machine

Organization: Participate in GWG's Miss Colonial Pageant.

[Mephansteras]

Miss Colonial Pagent Results:
    GreatWyrmGold: 4 - Victory! A nice clean event, won by one of the local girls. A good time was had by all.
    PyroDesu: 2

The First Play Token Party:
    Kashyyk: 1 - Failure - The Party was Ruined! (You still have the token, though)
    Dariush: 5 - Success (Stuff was blown up!)
    Toaster: 5 - Success (While anchovies are unavailable, a substitute was found)
 
  The stench of "anchovy" pizzas drives everyone from the event. Party goers are left nauseous and staggering by the smell. The local Alien equivalent anchovies are, apparently, rather odorous. A short time later the ceremony tent explodes in a shower of broken plastic and nausea-inducing pizza. No one was harmed, but investigations into the explosion are underway.



Space Station
Colonist Pool: 39
*** There are no more Experts left in the colony pool
VP Pool: 70
Trade Environment: Basic

Available Colonists:
    1 Skilled
    3 Unskilled   
    2 Criminal

Available Resources:

Resource	Amount	Cost	Buys At
Food	12	2	1
Basic Raw	6	3	2
Rare Raw	3	5	4
Basic Goods	6	5	4
Rare Goods	3	7	6
Xeno Materials	3	6	5
Basic Machines	6	7	6
Advanced Machines	3	13	12

Settlements

GreatWyrmGold
VPs: 5
Temporary Housing: 2 Unskilled, 1 Criminal
Reserved Colonist: None
Wealth: 5
Resources: None
Warehouse: 0/5
Contracts: 1 Basic Goods, 1 Rare Goods, 1 Advanced Machine
Size: 6/15
Colonial Center - 1 Skilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Unskilled
Basic Machine Factory - 1 Skilled
University - 1 Skilled, 1 Expert


Kashyyk - First Player Token
VPs: 1
Temporary Housing: 1 Experts, 1 Skilled
Reserved Colonist: Skilled
Wealth: 5
Resources: 1 Basic Goods, 1 Rare Raw
Warehouse: 2/5
Contracts: 1 Basic Machine, 2 Advanced Machine
Size: 8/15
Colonial Center - 1 Expert
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Skilled
Goods Factory - 1 Unskilled
Prison - 2 Criminals
Rare Harvester - 1 Skilled


PyroDesu
VPs: 0
Temporary Housing: 1 Expert, 1 Skilled
Reserved Colonist: None
Wealth: 9
Resources: 2 Food, 1 Basic Machine
Warehouse: 3/5
Contracts: 1 Advanced Machine
Size: 8/15
Colonial Center - None
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Unskilled
Goods Factory - 1 Unskilled
Basic Machine Factory - 1 Skilled


Toaster
VPs: 6
Temporary Housing: 3 Unskilled
Reserved Colonist: None
Wealth: 4
Resources: 1 Basic Machine
Warehouse: 1/5
Contracts: 1 Advanced Machine, 1 Rare Goods
Size: 6/15
Colonial Center - 1 Expert
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Unskilled
Basic Goods Factory - 1 Unskilled
Basic Machine Factory - 1 Skilled


evilcherry
VPs: 5
Temporary Housing: 3 Unskilled
Reserved Colonist: None
Wealth: 7
Resources: 1 Rare Goods, 1 Basic Raw, 1 Rare Raw, 1 Xeno Materials
Warehouse: 4/5
Contracts: 1 Basic Machine, 1 Basic Goods, 1 Advanced Machine
Size: 8/15
Colonial Center - 1 Expert
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm Complex - 2 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Unskilled
Rare Harvester - 1 Skilled
Xeno Farm - 1 Expert


Dariush
VPs: 6
Temporary Housing: 1 Unskilled, 2 Expert, 1 Criminal
Reserved Colonist: 1 Skilled
Wealth: 2
Resources: 1 Rare Raw, 1 Basic Goods
Warehouse: 1/5
Contracts: None
Size: 8/15
Colonial Center - 1 Expert
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Farm - 1 Unskilled
Harvester - 1 Unskilled
Rare Harvester - 1 Skilled
Basic Goods Factory - 1 Unskilled
Rare Goods Factory - 1 Expert
Advanced Machine Factory - 1 Expert


Turn Order:       
    Kashyyk
    PyroDesu
    Toaster   
    evilcherry
    Dariush
    GreatWyrmGold
   

[GreatWyrmGold]

Phase: Investigation.

On a serious note, will more direct conflict between players ever be possible, or is that beyond the scope of this game?

[Mephansteras]

Phase: Investigation.

On a serious note, will more direct conflict between players ever be possible, or is that beyond the scope of this game?

Generally beyond the scope of this game. Might have some more direct interactions beyond trading at some point, but that depends on what expansions I come up with. Certainly won't be a core part of the game since this is supposed to be an Economic game.

[Toaster]

Can we scrap buildings?  I'm guessing no since filling the grid is an end condition.

[Mephansteras]

Can we scrap buildings?  I'm guessing no since filling the grid is an end condition.

That is correct.

[Kashyyk]

Are we waiting for someone?

[Mephansteras]

Phase choices are in:

Player	Phase
GreatWyrmGold	Production
Kashyyk	Trade
PyroDesu	Production
Toaster	Survey
evilcherry	Trade
Dariush	Production

Phases this round are Survey, Production, and Trade.


Current Turn Order
PyroDesu
Toaster
evilcherry
Dariush
GreatWyrmGold
Kashyyk

[Toaster]

Survey:  +2 W
Production: 3x Farm, CC, Harvester, Goods -> +1 VP, +1 Basic Goods
Trade:  Buy 3 Food: -6 W

Player Trade: 1 Unskilled, 1 Basic Machine to GrateWormGod

Net:  -4 W, +3 Food, +1 Basic Goods, +1 VP, -1 Basic Machine, -1 Unskilled



GWG:  Care to do that trade now?

[Dariush]

S: +1 W;
P: +1 VP, +1 RG, +1W;
T: -1 RRR, +1 BM, -3W.