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Vector

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The State of the Subforum
« on: June 30, 2013, 09:49:40 pm »

Okay, dudes.  This week it's actually going to happen.  I'm going to update the Notable Games Archive.  I have two days off work, and at least two hours of one of those days is going to be devoted to this subforum.

When I got to thinking about that, though, I started realizing that we could get some other work done at the same time.  What do you guys think?  Do we need a new system here, or is everything else working pretty well?  What things would make it easier for you to play games the way you want to?
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 12:35:20 am »

It would be nice to have a thread for general beginner's mafia discussion instead of having it flow from thread to thread.
We should do something about ICs replacing out.

Other than that I think everything is fine.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 12:36:33 am »

Hmm... what do you mean about the ICs replacing out?
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 12:51:56 am »

The past 3 beginner's mafias all have had an IC replace out (Ford in 41, Nerjin in 40, Shakerag in 39), which I think sets a bad example and disrupts game flow. People shouldn't in for IC unless they be sure they'll be available for the entire game and should stay in barring extreme circumstances.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 01:59:19 am »

Is this thread intended to replace the general subforum discussion that happens in the Games Threshhold thread?
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 03:47:11 am »

I think we should resurrect Wuba's ages-old attendance tracking thread. The number of replacement requests has gotten simply atrocious lately.

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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 06:29:10 am »

Firstly: The Open Games and Replacements thread is mostly unused by now. About half the links in the Links post are obsolete, the only game in the Open Games post is not an open game at all (and that function is better served by the OP of Games Threshold, anyway), and people aren't really using the Replacements function. It should probably be depinned.

A replacements list post was useful when there were lots of games around. Now, there are rarely more than three Mafia games active at any one time including the BM. Since a lot of people check the subforum anyway, putting replacement needs in the thread title is a much better solution; it's much quicker to go through and needs fewer clicks, and doesn't rely on any one person keeping everything updated. We do this already, so there isn't really any need for a replacements list.

Secondly: Things that serve important functions in the current incarnation of this subforum need to be pinned. This includes the Games Threshold thread, which sees more use than any metathread that exists now, the new Lurkertracker, and the Gametypes thread. The Notable Games archive should probably also be pinned to avoid it being lost in the depths of previous pages, as it's not likely that it will be a vehicle for discussion but will be visited anyway by new people or others wanting to look at exemplary games.


Those are the things that are really important. The Games Threshold thread may also benefit from a renaming to better reflect its general-discussion nature.

I think we should resurrect Wuba's ages-old attendance tracking thread. The number of replacement requests has gotten simply atrocious lately.

That sounds good, but would need a new thread and a new person to take care of the OP, as webadict isn't around as often any longer.

Is this thread intended to replace the general subforum discussion that happens in the Games Threshhold thread?

It's intended to discuss changes to be made now, AFAIK. So, not really.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 07:59:37 am »

Yeah, this is just talking about now.

I agree that the Signboard is useless, but I'm less certain that all of those things need to be pinned.  Open games seems like the best replacement.  Why don't we have a list of useful links just under the list of what's open?
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 12:50:13 pm »

I think we should resurrect Wuba's ages-old attendance tracking thread. The number of replacement requests has gotten simply atrocious lately.
This is true.  Players who can't play a game for a few months should think twice before joining.  A game really shouldn't have a Replacement Queue almost as long as the player list!  I'm not sure I'd accept Imperial Guardsman into any games right now for example.

I think LNCP and ZU said everything else that matters.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 01:30:32 pm »

So we plan to have a thread to keep track of activity/how often people need replaced? I like the idea.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2013, 01:51:58 pm »

Yeah, this is just talking about now.

I agree that the Signboard is useless, but I'm less certain that all of those things need to be pinned.  Open games seems like the best replacement.  Why don't we have a list of useful links just under the list of what's open?

Because almost nobody uses it now. It would be simpler to remove the extra click-though layer of links that's present and not otherwise needed and just pin the relevant threads that are important.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 02:02:51 pm »

The Games Threshold thread is designed for people to talk about what games they want to play next, as well as give us a listing of what's in the pipeline. The list part isn't as necessary now as it was when I first made it (back in 2009), but the general discussion of what to run and how soon to run them seems useful.

Probably wouldn't hurt to put a few links in the OP of the thread to other major threads, though, so discussion for things like new game types can go to their proper place.

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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2013, 03:53:30 pm »

I'd like if someone in the forum was given mod powers just so they can sticky threads, that'd allow us to keep the stickies up to date without hassling Toady.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2013, 04:32:01 pm »

I humbly nominate Griffinpup the great to be supreme mod commander of this world.
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Re: The State of the Subforum
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2013, 04:48:56 pm »

I'd like if someone in the forum was given mod powers just so they can sticky threads, that'd allow us to keep the stickies up to date without hassling Toady.
I vote for Dariush.
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