Rolepgeek: Lean Town. I don't have that much to say against Rolepgeek, aside that it took him a surprisingly long time to get around to my questions.
FAKEEDITSERIOUSLYIT'SFAKE: I hadn't noticed those questions, actually, birdy. I'll answer them now.
For Griffionday's question, I would think it would be easy if you pretended you were town. That sounds ridiculous, but basically, if you act the exact same way you would as if you were town, then you're indistinguishable, right? This is my first game, so the only thing I can see that would make it easier or harder is other people screwing up the DavetheGrave did, or cops getting lucky.
For yours, I'm thinking Powder Miner kept his vote on him for the same reason everyone else voted him in the first place; he was acting really scummy. Or at least we thought he did. Considering that IG was the one who voted him, and griffinpup and him started pumping him and sending him into a panic, which at least for me, casts some suspicion on griffinpup. But yeah, I think he kept the vote on because he thought it was the best idea to do. Probably. I'm not him. I could PM him, if you like.
You would actually be surprised how difficult it can be to play the scum role. If you are a Townie, you don't have to be afraid of death. Scum players however have to protect themselves from their own lynch, since there is only a small handful of players on their side. This makes them afraid of death and accusations, which causes their gameplay to change as a consequence.
I can live with your explanation of Powder Miner's actions. It strikes me as genuine.
Also, as per your request, I am addressing everyone in this post, so I'm going to include my reads of them as a I go through my responses.
But, in combing through the thread for this information, I find something else.
IG: You are a Rolecop, D1. Who do you target N1, and why?
New evidence has come to light. Specifically, evidence that IG was a Rolecop. He'd asked, and been asked, questions about Rolecop before, as well. This is unlikely, to say the least, to be a coincidence. Combined with other factors(such as the relative low post count of Chink, the points you've brought up about him subsequently interacting very little with IG, and , this raises the suspicion factor on birdy51.
Also… Good catch on the RVS question between Chink and IG, but I am not certain what to make of it. But, if I had to wager a logical guess, I think this probably one case where the scum decides to taunt a townie.
Squill: Leaning Towards Town. I have no real reason to suspect Squill, based on the actions of his Griffionday and his response to my question. Newscum might have panicked a bit more, and would have potentially written a larger argument as to why they cannot possibly be scum. The outrightness of his answer gives some indication of his alignment.
Squill: Welcome to the game. Are you scum?
No, but if I was, I see no reason to say so.
Also, I feel confused. I have a vague idea of the ongoings, but the specifics are beyond me. I don't think the personal feud helped, but it seems to be a little bit clearer.
The reason I asked you if you were scum is actually relatively simple. Newer scum players have a liability to panic when the chips are down, which may cause them to say much more than they need to. But, sometimes a simpler answer is the best.
To counter Nerjin's advice though, I suggest you start looking at what people have been saying and go. Find a comment that just doesn't sit well with you and apply pressure.
Nerjin: Lean scum. Nerjin has been lurking quite a bit this game, whether on account of his own volition or if his life simply has been a bit busier as of late. The slightly dismissive manner by which he told Squill to go look at the front page for advice bothers me. At this late of a junction in the game, someone coming into this game is going to need a lot focused advice, as opposed to general scum-hunting tips.
Squill: Welcome to the game. Are you scum?
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Nerjin: Yesterday, you came into the vote very late and was not given any chances to give in your insight on the situation as a whole. How do you plan on addressing Day 3?
Your first question is kinda... Wasted. But I suppose it's a fair enough one. As for the question addressed to me: I'm going to reread days 1 and 2 and then get back to you on that one. After every day you should re-read the previous ones. Even if it's just a quick re-read to refresh your memory.
Believe it or not, the "are you scum question?" was one the first I had answered coming into this game. I spent a good thirty minutes trying to figure out how to respond to it, panicking and going through different options and scenarios. However, the easiest answer was right in front of me. I'm not scum, so why should I be worried about that question? So I ended up writing something much similar.
Captain Ford would then go on to explain the question's significance as I have for Squill. It's by no means a wasted question, just an unorthodox one.
Now, as for your answer to my question. I don't feel very confident in your answer. Rereading only does so much, and I believe Griffionday has a point in that we have to keep moving forward with our arguments. There comes a point where we have to stop rereading the entire thread cover to cover, and starting acting today. Especially given a player of your own position.
So far, you've been very, very quiet. I didn't see you much on Day 2, until you joined the bandwagon on IG and you've yet to post anything significant yet today. Optimally, Day 3 should be a day where you make your way back into the game, and yet you choose to spend a good portion of your time on rereading. This bothers me a lot, considering you are our IC, the player who should be To quote someone, "The game does not run on idle wheels." As of right now, you are lurking heavily. I realize you have your reasons, but come now. There comes a time where you just have to stop making excuses and just go. Live in the present. There is a time for rereading and there is a time for creating new material to work off of.
I think relying too much on past material is what has stagnated this game in the past, because we become incapable of moving forward.
Griffinpup: Scum. I have come to believe that Griffinpup is not playing with the Town's survival in mind. There a few things that he has said just today that do not sit right with me.
3. I never insulted Griffionday's playstyle, only Griffionday as a person.
First I want to bring up this. Here Griffinpup admits to the use of Ad Hominem, a deceptive technique by which you insult your rival in order to discredit their opinions. He couldn't counterclaim against his logic, so Griffinpup opted to attack Griffionday directly instead. I hate to tell Griffin, but "You're wrong, because you're stupid." is not an acceptable counterargument when you are trying refute someone under any circumstances.
I find the idea that Griffinpup relied on the principle of Ad Hominem to counter Griffionday scummy. There is no conceivable point in attacking other players, other than to dishonestly discredit both them as players and their arguments. If disagree with someone, present a counter argument. The resulting conflict has far more value than if you were to simply insult another player and call it a day.
Griffinpup: 1. The person I think is most likely to be scum, as he may have been building the arguement between him and IG to make it seem like they were at odds and thus neither was scum. 2. Also, for whatever reason, he got really pissy with Griffionday, 3. in addition to insulting his playstyle whilst simultaneously telling Griffionday to stop doing the same to him. 4. And yet he's been the one to continuously comment about people being 'emotionally-driven'.
1. WIFOM like none other.
2. Not a scumtell.
3. I never insulted Griffionday's playstyle, only Griffionday as a person.
4. "Emotionally Driven" and "Feels Emotion" are two separate and distinct things.
Then there is this juicy tidbit. The citing WIFOM in order to disregard another person's argument is also very scum move. Why? Because nearly everything in this game is WIFOM and reading the other players.
Look around, and you'll see WIFOM everywhere. Making a character judgement? That is affected by WIFOM. Determining who's scum? More WIFOM. Determining who did what in the night? Even more WIFOM!
Performing character judgments based upon their words and actions is a natural and inevitable part of the game. Rolepgeek just made an accusation against you. Griffinpup right. That is WIFOM. But instead of addressing the accusation, he called upon WIFOM as an excuse to hand-wave it, which is not at all a move a Townie would do. What he's done, is that he ignored the argument because he knew he couldn't defend against it.
There is more I want to say, but I need a bit more time than I have available right now. I have some singing to do!