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[Jboy2000000]

So, for some reason Ive been having this really weird idea going around in my head for a long time, and it just won't get out. I have the idea of a weird cross-over story between LCS and Tropico 4. Im just saying it because I want to know what people think before I write it, because the last time I wrote something it wasn't really the favourite thing around here, and don't really want to waste me time for something people won't want, plus it is a really weird idea.

[Darvi]

Tropico is where the deported Arch-conservative justices go.

[Jboy2000000]

Not when I play, I make it a liberal/communist paradise, capitalism is unheard of in my islands, and at the endgame when I have tons of money the minimum wage in my country is 20 Tropicanas.

[Darvi]

Well duh, the game's set during the cold war. LCS happens a few decades after that, and you know how quick politics can change in banana republics.

[Jboy2000000]

Actually, the campaign ends at sometime around the end of Soviet Union, and even though Im not familiar with what year that actually was it couldn't be that long before the starting year of LCS, and you can keep an island going forever if you want, Ive even had a 100-year island.

[KA101]

Actually, the campaign ends at sometime around the end of Soviet Union, and even though Im not familiar with what year that actually was it couldn't be that long before the starting year of LCS, and you can keep an island going forever if you want, Ive even had a 100-year island.

LCS Founder is born in 1984, and founds the LCS on 01 Jan 2009.  I've only ever played Tropico 1, and my record there was about 50 years or so--but since it started in the 50s, yeah, that's within reason.

(But then El Presidente would be in his* seventies, at least...)

*Tropico 1 had C Gender Equality/Womens' Rights, in that roles were sex-segregated (apparently there wasn't enough art time or somesuch nonsense?).  El Presidente appears on my CD as a guy.

[Jboy2000000]

Well, after some research I found that the fall of the Soviet Union started in 1985, one year after the birth of the founder, and completely fell in 1988, so the timeline of the fourth game, the one I was thinking of, so it works, and the game continues for 5 years, based on time limits given during crucial events during the last mission, so the "end" of Tropico comes around 2013, interestingly enough.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Well, after some research I found that the fall of the Soviet Union started in 1985, one year after the birth of the founder, and completely fell in 1988, so the timeline of the fourth game, the one I was thinking of, so it works, and the game continues for 5 years, based on time limits given during crucial events during the last mission, so the "end" of Tropico comes around 2013, interestingly enough.

That might be a little early; I would have said that the fall of the Soviet Union started in 1988 or 1989, and it completely fell in 1991. 1985 is when the reform-minded Gorbachev was elected General Secretary of the Soviet Union, but very few people at the time would have seriously predicted the USSR was unstable at that point. 1988 is when Estonia moved to leave the union, with several more secession movements in the next year. That's when things started to look scary for the USSR's future.

Despite this, it was still very much in existence (and still mostly intact) until 1991, when communist hardliners tried to stop things from getting worse by launching a coup against Gorbachev, which would let them start to roll back reforms and clamp down on political dissent. They coup was defeated primarily by the common people marching on government buildings, and in the fallout the governments of the three most populous republics, including Russia, signed an agreement that declared their independence and announced the breakup of the Soviet Union. Within weeks the remaining member states signed a treaty confirming their independence, and the remaining USSR government figures conceded defeat and formally abolished the union as a political entity.

Although his government vanished from under his feet, Gorbachev remained involved in Russian politics, and remains a prominent voice opposing many of Vladimir Putin's policies today.

[Jboy2000000]

Thanks, I just got my numbers from Wiki, and I didn't even really pay all that much attention when I was reading when I was tired, so I just took years from bulletpoints. But thanks for explaining it for me Foxxy, Im really interested in Russian communism politics.

[Fernest]

They coup was defeated primarily by the common people marching on government buildings

I believe the oligarchs had a key position in this as well.
At this time they were in existence, powerful (money, resources, communication-channels), interconnected to the west, russian industry and to the communist party.
They had the means to make a change.
And they were totally for Gorbachev's Perestroika (their wealth depended on it and without it they would be criminals (being e.g. smuggler-bosses))

[Rakonas]

Tropico is where the deported Arch-conservative justices go.

Tropico has free healthcare, food, and education by default. The government's goal is to find jobs for its people, and housing is built as required for the citizenry. I'd hardly call that even remotely conservative.