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[CptCrunchy]

Not sure if i should bother with the Manticore stuff, can Orcs even use Crossbows?

I think manticore bolts release some sort of toxic gas or acid when they get stuck inside something, you'd have to import crossbows though.  I'd say just trade them, theyre usually worth a lot of orcbux

[Dazbuzz]

Yeah, two of the stacks are worth 1.5k, the other is well crafted, so its 3k. Not bad at all. I feel like these things could murder a few Elven ambushes, but i guess ill just sell em.

[Meph]

Be carefull with them, I remember reports that when carried in bare hands, without container, gloves or quiver, they can also trigger that gas cloud.

[LMeire]

Conditions in the Dungeon have stabilized now that I've stopped trying to bury the ghouls and set up cage traps around the corpse stockpiles; constant reanimations have necessitated that I fill my catacombs with cages rather than coffins- so it's more of a zombie-zoo than it is a Cemetery. Needless to say, tombs are now quite useless and mostly used to calm the nobles.

At least it's easy to train, I've already got 3 legendary fighters from putting down slobbering zombie-heads over and over again, they each have over a dozen kills listed.

[Tenderroast]

Still on my map with the Vamp Lord in the shrine to the south, and he is still alive (i cheated, and used DFHACK tiletypes to wall his ass in.

I just got a migration wave, with waht i think might be the perfect dwarf to fight him with.... a Paladin

Curse: a PALADIN by the name of *insert real name here*

buffs: Conjuror, Paladin, Berserker, , Vampcurse

I'm guessing the vampcurse in buffs is refering to the paladin "curse"

Question is, is this guy a good thing, and able to be removed from carpenters guild and made Legion, or do i need to arrange an "accident"?

[Meph]

All special worldgen secrets are either learned or given by a "curse". Its the only word DF has for it, even if its a blessing like Druidism or a Paladin. He wont do you harm.

[sandant]

Well my Orc fort has reached the level of boring stability that marks time for a switch to either warlocks or my plans for an all gun and trap wielding dwarf fort. I will be sad to leave my warchief behind though, he's a character straight out of a lord of the rings fan-fic. A Ronin sword lord who fights with a wolfram Zweihander one handed since he lost his other arm to a FB back when he was a scrub. Also one of my sergeants who was a miner in two of my previous Orc forts keeps migrating to my new ones after my old fort is abandoned. I guess he likes my leadership style.

[Tenderroast]

sadly, i think i need to arrange an unfortuanate accident for my paladin... He is a Paladin AND a vamp. Just found my cheif medic drained of blood (he was a starting dwarf, and friends with half my population) The joys of a near instantaneous tantrum spiral (followed by a ragequit as the tantrum spiral escalated to a loyalty cascade when my military got involved.) Total time from discovery of they body, to the death of the fortress, 3 minutes.

edit:
Went to legends viewer to check out the paladin...

In 47, midwinter, Oshgat became obsessed with it's own mortality and sought to extend it's life by any means.

In 49, midsummer, The Silvery Glimmers was claimed in Crabsinned by Oshgat.

In 49, midsummer, Oshgat learned (LIGHT_SECRET) from The Silvery Glimmers

In 53, late autumn, Oshgat linked (UNKNOWN) to the dwarf Gatin Saffronoceanic.

In 53, late autumn, Pinerain the Wet Lions was claimed in Crabsinned by Oshgat.

In 53, late autumn, Oshgat learned (FOOD_SECRET) from Pinerain the Wet Lions

In 54, early spring, Oshgat linked (UNKNOWN) to the dwarf Vudnis the Storms of Spiking.

In 54, early spring, Conflagrationquest was claimed in Crabsinned by Oshgat.

In 54, early spring, Oshgat learned (WAR_SECRET) from Conflagrationquest

In 55, early summer, Oshgat linked (UNKNOWN) to the dwarf Thabum the Excavation of Gems.

In 64, late summer, Bronzemines was claimed in Crabsinned by Oshgat.

In 64, late summer, Oshgat learned (GEOMANCY) from Bronzemines

In 67, early winter, Oshgat profaned (1) in Crabsinned.

In 67, early winter, the dwarf Anan the Mists of Night (DEITY_CURSE_VAMPIRE_12) on Oshgat.

In 72, late autumn, Oshgat aroused general suspicion at Crabsinned after a murder

In 72, late autumn, Oshgat became a UNKNOWN JOB in Crabsinned.

In 72, late autumn, Oshgat settled in in Seducerfolds.

In 73, Oshgat became a UNKNOWN JOB in Seducerfolds.

In 77, midspring, Oshgat settled in in Wiredanvils.


So in Summary, 4 sets of secrets AND vamp. If anyone has an idea of how i can use him without having to resort to an "unfortunate accident" please let me know... this dwarf is a badass.

[kamikazi1231]

Give him a micro fort and maybe danger room him. Then lock the main fort and release him to fight sieges. I like to airlock vamps. Pit in stones, produce goods, vamp hauls good to stockpile in airlock, switch unlocked doors and normal dwarves haul stuff to normal fort.

[Tenderroast]

for now, he is a 1 dorf squad, wiht an armor stand, in a walled in room, told to train by himself

[jimboo]

Isolation seems to be the only answer for vampires. They make great bookkeepers and managers but you don’t really need a bookkeeper after the first couple of seasons and any dwarf with a decent bedroom can do the manager thing.  Make him a miner with a ☼mithril battle pick☼ and he can explore the entire underground map if you’re not cheating with reveal.exe.  Just keep him away from the staircases and opened areas and enable masonry and architecture so he can wall off the inevitable intrusions.  Accidents can happen so I like to take a useless bachelor migrant and make two isolated vampires, guaranteeing an immortal fortress.  A “squad of one” can be badass but not sufficient so give him access to the surface from an isolated entrance with a hatch; he won’t feed on dwarves that are awake so he can engage with other squads up top as long as everyone else is in a civilian bunker.  There are ways in Masterwork to upskill agility so he can carry a battlepick in one hand and a longsword in the other, no need for a shield or switching out weapons.

Keep in mind that no one has ever written up a successful Masterwork Vampire fortress so that’s always an option for when the boredom kicks in.  Each time I’ve tried, they eventually went insane.  Maybe with the stables and a few animals underground … Airlocks could let dorfs come by now and again to drop off bales of hay.  Hmm, I think I’ll try that next opportunity.  Maybe it’s necessary to have a “mini-fortress” for migrants as a renewable food source?  Oh, should have cross-posted this in the Discussion thread --

[Tenderroast]

i wish i could get another vamp, so i could put them in a 2 man squad

[mahrgell]

Odd... I never ever had any vamp in either DF or MWDF outside of my little warlock testfort...
And trust me... I played many many games ^^

[jimboo]

Do you have it red-exxed in the GUI at world gen?  Darn, should have posted this reply in Discussion, too --

[Dazbuzz]

Started a lovely Fort. Even had a Stonemancer at Embark. Uncovered some relics, got my Mancer a full set of iron from it, and even a megabeast soul. Had him use the soul to power up, gave him a steel battleaxe and coated it in several poisons. Sent him to play with a Goblin ambush. He pretty much did what i expected. Slicing off limbs with every other hit, spraying dust at the Goblins with his strange spells. He was a whirlwind of destruction until he came face to face with a Goblin Lasher. Who killed my awesome Stonemancer in two lashes.

Dammit.