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[heydude6]

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Somewhat strange that with choices not mattering, there are two different endings to the boss battle. Signs of a "Screw Destiny" in the future?

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Huh? Two endings? Is it possible to kill him? I thought you were simply supposed to wear him down with attacks and then he would give up.

Btw. Has anyone done a playthrough where they deliberately tried to kill stuff? I accidentally let Susy kill two mouseketeers (who both happened to be named barry), but I didn't receive any consequences for it.

[Senator Jim Death]

I don't really feel compelled to play this at all, whatever it is, and I was a huge Undertale fan. I'm glad Toby more or less came out and said that he can't make another game like Undertale and that he's not trying to do that. It's not the kind of game that can really have a sequel as such.

But if he really wants it to be something different, I don't know why it would be related at all.

I guess the answer is "wait and see."

[pikachu17]

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Somewhat strange that with choices not mattering, there are two different endings to the boss battle. Signs of a "Screw Destiny" in the future?

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Huh? Two endings? Is it possible to kill him? I thought you were simply supposed to wear him down with attacks and then he would give up.

Btw. Has anyone done a playthrough where they deliberately tried to kill stuff? I accidentally let Susy kill two mouseketeers (who both happened to be named barry), but I didn't receive any consequences for it.

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Mouseketters? I am not sure I encountered any. Did she actually kill them, or did they just flee?
And the two endings depend on how many monster you cause to flee.
If you do very little, through warning them when Susie is violent, then the boss is defeated, and locked away by his own subjects, led by Lance. If you were violent, Rasiel Pacifies the boss, and then Kris and Susie flee the monsters, while Lance holds them off.

[Egan_BW]

I don't really feel compelled to play this at all, whatever it is, and I was a huge Undertale fan. I'm glad Toby more or less came out and said that he can't make another game like Undertale and that he's not trying to do that. It's not the kind of game that can really have a sequel as such.

But if he really wants it to be something different, I don't know why it would be related at all.

I guess the answer is "wait and see."

I think toby is underselling himself there. Undertale is something special to me, but it's nothing so special that no other game can make me feel the same way again. Deltarune is sort of a continuation of that. Just a game that's good enough to feel exciting in a way that most games don't.
I don't know why you'd think that Undertale is a game that can't have a sequel. Because this very much is a sequel to Undertale. If you liked Undertale, then you will like this too. If for some reason you worship Undertale as your god, I guess you'll never appreciate another game ever again.

And the reason why Deltarune is related to Undertale, if it's supposed to be a seperate game? To give feels to people who have played Undertale.

[Senator Jim Death]

I think toby is underselling himself there. Undertale is something special to me, but it's nothing so special that no other game can make me feel the same way again. Deltarune is sort of a continuation of that. Just a game that's good enough to feel exciting in a way that most games don't.
I don't know why you'd think that Undertale is a game that can't have a sequel. Because this very much is a sequel to Undertale. If you liked Undertale, then you will like this too. If for some reason you worship Undertale as your god, I guess you'll never appreciate another game ever again.

And the reason why Deltarune is related to Undertale, if it's supposed to be a seperate game? To give feels to people who have played Undertale.

I guess that what I meant was that Undertale felt complete, even in its incompleteness. It feels like sort of a thing that stands by itself.

But I felt the same way about Undertale before the full game came out: even with the demo, I didn't really understand it and didn't care much for it. The full release completely changed my mind about the game--literally 180 degrees of difference, from "nothing special" to "yeah this is my #1 game now"--which is why I'm taking the same approach here. Here's some demo that I'm not going to understand and probably won't like, so I'll just wait for the full game and trust in Toby's ability or luck or whatever it is to pull the thing together. It worked pretty well last time around, and since he seems to be aiming at a release sometime in the next few years I'll probably just forget about it until it releases.

If this had dropped a few years ago, I would be reacting completely differently and be super excited. My life situation is different now, so for me (if no one else) the timing is pretty much perfect.

[JimboM12]

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we mightve been the players, but this was charas game. in addition, as wild speculation and knowing toby fox's quirks, i get the feeling the ending tune Don't Forget is either important to the lore/mythos/story? or its a wild red herring.

[Chiefwaffles]

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I find it interesting that your interactions in the town imply that you -- Kris -- aren't actually acting like Kris.

Found some other examples mentioned by other people on sources like reddit and whatnot, but for me the main thing was stuff like how the hospital receptionist comments on how nicely you play the piano. Then you play it, practically just smashing your hand on a key, and the receptionist sees this as odd.
Practically everything you do is out of character. Hell, something I didn't notice at first was you saving over Kris's save when you first play. The .exe is called "SURVEY PROGRAM" implying you're a third party. So are you just helping someone possess Kris?

[JimboM12]

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thinking on it, yeah. i wonder if the game would change if you don't save at all? kris's save stays intact that way. also, i wonder if a pacifist playthrough changes any from a violent playthough? heh, i bet the twist is that chara invited us into his new world to continue our genocide run or to be tortured trying to resist it. also, i love that sans apparently knows whats up.

[Egan_BW]

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The .exe is titled deltarune, it's just the game folder that's titled SURVEY_PROGRAM. And I changed that because I like for the games in my games folder to be not-confusingly named.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Haven't finished the chapter yet, BUT--may I suggest that we are all putting the cart before the horse here? I am usually Mr-Judge-Sequels-Harshly (not a sequel I know, but very similar), but in this case--considering that like... 0% of Undertale's charm was in the first part of the game, I say let's wait and see. A lot of the same vitriol(in some instances)/criticism I am reading here is kind of what the uninitiated think about Undertale--until they actually play it and finish it.

Regardless of how connected this game will be to Undertale, it's certainly looking like it's going to be taking a lot of its storytelling cues from it--and Toby got that slow burn style.

EDIT: Having played further on... seems pretty darn good to me?

[Egan_BW]

Nonetheless, deltarune chapter 1 is much more of a complete product in itself than the undertake demo was. It has its own story ark, which does get largely resolved while leaving room for more.

What I'm saying is that even if the project is never completed, chapter 1 can be fairly treated as its own work. Given that it'll be a long time before the rest is released, I'll be treating it in that light.

[pikachu17]

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At the beginning, you can just go back to be and skip straight the Dark World, and considering that didn't change the ending, does that mean that going away abd coming back wad all a dream?

[Putnam]

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Susie still experienced all of it

[JimboM12]

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i just noticed, i dont think any monsters really die if you play the violent route. It could be that either the heart is stopping them, its all a make believe play session, or exp doesnt stand for what it did in undertale. It also begs the question, does determination still factor in?

[Egan_BW]

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Hm. Seems that there's no way to gain exp. That's unusual.

Suppose it's just a facet of the fact that in this world, you don't choose who you are...