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Author Topic: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!  (Read 153640 times)

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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #780 on: February 03, 2016, 05:28:22 pm »

How does ASGORE get the souls if he doesn't personally kill the children? Souls disappear pretty shortly after the death of the owner, exploding into fragments. Nobody mentions carrying any sort of soul-capturing apparatus.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #781 on: February 03, 2016, 05:34:28 pm »

Human souls last longer outside their body than monster souls.

Monsters can absorb souls, so chances are the can expel them if needed.

Every monster is effectively a soul-capturing apparatus.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #782 on: February 03, 2016, 06:16:08 pm »

Those tubes seem perfectly capable of holding SOULs.

More importantly, it's mentioned in some of the lore that human SOULs don't fade away like monster SOULs. I'm pretty sure it's either implied or outright stated that a human SOUL is eternal.

Frisk is sort of the odd one out, which is one of the reasons I'm not quite sure I believe (s)he's entirely human. But that's just headcanon.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #783 on: February 03, 2016, 06:30:32 pm »

I believe that Frisk is literally a reincarnation/reanimation of Chara, and they just lie about their identity in the pacifist route.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #784 on: February 03, 2016, 06:47:44 pm »

I believe that Frisk is literally a reincarnation/reanimation of Chara, and they just lie about their identity in the pacifist route.

If that were the case, the Post Genocide Pacifist ending would be meaningless (The pacifist ending but with pictures of the other people crossed out and Chara instead of Frisk
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #785 on: February 03, 2016, 06:51:45 pm »

Frisk is sort of the odd one out, which is one of the reasons I'm not quite sure I believe (s)he's entirely human. But that's just headcanon.

I just assumed it was Flowey destroying your soul when you died, to prevent the monsters from getting a seventh soul and being able to leave the underground.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #786 on: February 03, 2016, 07:07:18 pm »

Once Frisk is dead though Flowey can just reset. I think he said that his powers only stopped working when Frisk showed up.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #787 on: February 03, 2016, 07:09:18 pm »

I assumed that Frisk's soul breaking on death was just a representation of Game Over; their soul lives on, but outside of the True Pacifist ending they lack the determination to re-form it. Thus, they can no longer invoke their will and have no choice but to reset.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #788 on: February 03, 2016, 07:28:33 pm »

Nobody ever said human souls never shattered. Just that they never disappeared. Monsters are attacking your SOUL after all, not your body which would be counter initiative if they wanted it intact.

They probably glue them back together with magic.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #789 on: February 03, 2016, 07:36:18 pm »

If your SOUL does become unusable after death, and this is unusual, then just imagine how Asgore would feel after he kills frisk.
He didn't want to fight, and it was all in vain anyway...
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« Reply #790 on: February 03, 2016, 07:40:10 pm »

...I wonder if maybe Frisk's soul shatters due to resetting. Before they entered the Underground, only Flowey had that ability and he didn't have a soul in the first place It might explain why the screen goes black once death occurs. If Frisk didn't have that power his soul might have simply been floating, available to stick in a jar.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #791 on: February 03, 2016, 10:09:26 pm »

There is the theory that Frisk is the zombie of Chara's corpse. It's a silly theory, but it's not completely nonviable.

As far as we're aware, though, nothing in the game is physically dangerous. The falls all have some kind of padding at the bottom, the monsters all attack with magic or magical weapons, and from what I recall, you aren't even allowed to put Frisk into a scenario where their physical body is in peril.

I've decided to stop using spoilers because, well, it is in the topic and it's making it a bit of a pain to read through the thread.
The tile puzzles could be considered dangerous with those piranhas and all, and there's the electricity wall puzzle. You also get knocked out after the fall in Waterfall. Maybe nothing particularly physically deadly, but there's certainly physical danger.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #792 on: February 03, 2016, 10:24:16 pm »

Sometimes I fail Papyrus' shock maze to make him feel better about life...

But then, I also ended up beating the terrible colored tile maze and Hotland. It's not easy, but it's possible with enough DETERMINATION.
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #793 on: February 13, 2016, 05:38:02 pm »

played the game, it really reaches your heart, i cant believe it tbh. the soundtrack specially is really good. and speaking about it, i've just noticed something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMR447uES9A

that song is only put for a small scene in the game and even then it gets you. turns out is one of the best soundtracks in the whole game just put backwards.... Toby, you motherfucking genius......
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Re: Undertale: Spoilers! Its whats for dinner!
« Reply #794 on: March 02, 2016, 05:02:13 pm »



Gaster blaster. (get it?)
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