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[Dwarf4Explosives]

Godddamn hard drive bugged out, so I can't access my raws until it gets fixed .

Anyway, how many of your creatures are finished, Urdothor?

[Urdothor]

Considering I can only work on them at midnight-2 A.M. right now, and that I have a ton a schoolwork, I have a ton of half finished creatures that dont quite work yet.
Its a good thing this wasnt really an official modding turn.

Sorry that I dont really have anything to show after all this time.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

Heh, before my drive crashed, I only had a few rather complicated body plans, five tissue templates, some half-made general creature raws and the general ideas for my creations. Creature detail plans, material plans and such things are hard form me to understand. And I'd been working on these ideas for quite a while before you started your modding, Urdothor, so don't feel too bad about not having finished stuff yet.

[Urdothor]

The problem is that the modding guide on the wiki really stinks, and the format the wiki is on my phone is really headache inducing.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

The wiki makes very little sense (as far as modding goes, anyway) no matter what format it's in. It really needs to be updated by someone, and preferably someone who has done enough modding to know how it works.

[Urdothor]

Even the tokens are messed up a bit.
Most of the tokens have no real explaination too them.

The wiki is no place for modders

[Urdothor]

Would there happen to be a more experienced modder willing to walk me through a few things? Just so I can get a good enough explaination to continue on my own.

I feel like what I have so far is just barely hanging on by a thread, so if I could get a little help, things would get a lot better.

[WillowLuman]

Well, for a start, why not post some of the raws giving you trouble?

[Urdothor]

Didnt think of that.
I cant for awhile.

I'm stuck on my phone right now. Sometime this week.

[Urdothor]

Is there a better modding guide than the one currently on the wiki? That way I dont have to question even the basics.

The wiki one isnt very helpful...

[BlackFlyme]

Is there a better modding guide than the one currently on the wiki? That way I dont have to question even the basics.

I don't believe I have ever used the guide on the wiki. The token pages are immensely helpful though. Here's the master page of tokens on the wiki. It should help direct you to individual token pages.

The only guide I've seen other than the one on the wiki is Shaostoul's, though it's somewhat old.

I've personally learned to mod by dissecting other people's mods to try and figure out what does what.

[Urdothor]

My problem with disecting mods is I think I
know what something does and I go to test it and everything screws up.
Maybe I'm dyslexic...

I think I'm going to end up with lots of explosions.

Alright... so, I want to make a body detail plan that uses stone as a tissue.
My previous attempts at this resulted in my tissue not being recognised. I substituted in another body detail plan and it worked.

I think it was screwing up at the add/use tissue and add/use material part(I think thats the tags I was thinking of) What would I need to refer to for it to use that tissue?

[BlackFlyme]

I actually have no clue if inorganics can be used in body detail plans.

[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:name:template] and [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:name:template] are only for actual material/tissue templates, I know that much. My attempts to get those tags to use inorganics have always failed.

[EDIT: though [USE_MATERIAL:material:old material] may accept inorganics. I just did an edit in my game and it isn't spitting error messages at me. /EDIT]

Though you can define your own tissues within a creature using something like this:

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Code: (This is found in the Bronze Colossus raws in an unmodded Dwarf Fortress) [Select]

[TISSUE:BRONZE] <- This is the tissue's ID.

[TISSUE_NAME:bronze:bronze] <- This is the name. First argument is the singular form, and the second is the plural.

[TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:BRONZE] <- This is the material, and is allowed to be an inorganic. In this case it is bronze.

[MUSCULAR] <- A muscular tissue has sensory and motor nerves. If the nerves are damaged, then the creature will lose feeling in its limb.

[FUNCTIONAL] <- The tissue performs a specific function. Useless for non-organs.

[STRUCTURAL] <- Holds the body part together. If a structural part is broken, such as a bone, then the limb will be inoperable.

[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1] <- Just how thick the layer is.

[CONNECTS] <- Holds the part together. If all connecting tissues are destroyed, then the limb will be severed.

[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER] <- The shape of the tissue. Can be LAYER, STRANDS, FEATHERS, and SCALES.

[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:BRONZE] <- Controls where the tissue is placed, and what tissue is used.

Or you could create a custom material that has similar properties to stone and a tissue template to use with it for a body detail plan.

I'm not actually sure of how Scratch's body detail plans work, as I haven't look though them before.

[Urdothor]

Thank you.
I had meant to say I was using a tissue similar to stone.

I attempted before and it failed.
This should hopefully help.

[Urdothor]

Oh!
I have news.
As my Glacier men are meant to be mostly 'aboveground' people, they are going to have a reaction to make ice into a 'metal' usable in tools, atleast until you have glacial creatures that contain bones. Then use those