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[Vgray]

Hmm. Which biome is most dangerous in this mod? Discounting evil regions.

[WillowLuman]

Likely swamps, since that's where the last modding turn was focused.

[Xieg]

Started a formic hive.  Built on an evil mountain and untamed wilds.  So many panserblekks, who are so very skittish.  Kind of wish they were more dangerous.  Also wish they were war tameable.  Have a couple pictures which I will add later when I have more time.

On thing of note, traders arrived towards the end of my last session and exploded in the depot.  The only thing I noticed in the early stages burning were panserblekk leather boots.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Report from the frontier hive, Leashesdark, at the base of The Vile Mountains opening onto the WHite Plains.  From the desk of the regent of The Tricks of Elder.

1st Granite, 501:  We have arrived at the base of this cursed mountain, lying right at the edge of untamed wilds.  By order of the Everqueen we will tame this land in the name of the hive.  As I survey the lands I see... Fuck, Panserblekks.  DIG YOU BASTARDS!

8th Granite, 501:  They are slithering around above us, doing our best to dig deep and quietly.

7th Slate, 501:  This mountain is rich in ore and coal, while panserblekks and hounds roam the plains.  I demand an army of warbeasts.

1st Malachite, 501:  Migrants have arrived!  All of the soldier caste too.  A shame right now we need manual labor.  I feel their skills will go to waste.

20th Galena, 501:  Traders.  Traded for whatever food we could afford.

21st Limestone, 501:  More migrants.  A few smiths in the group.  It is time to begin a metals industry.

1st Sandstone, 501:  Panserblekks, for all their horror stories, are actually fairly tame.  They run form us more than them.  I wonder how well they make for beasts of war.

23rd Sandstone, 501:  Elves sent an emissary, complained about our clear cutting operations.  Spat in his androgynous humanoid face.  He seems to have taken that as assent to his demands we cut less trees.  I do not understand these creatures.  Seized many of their goods.

7th Moonstone, 501:  The Everqueen's justice reaches out even to such a remote outpost as this.  Our Ashalim punished a worker for lazily avoiding my demands.  Had the corpse dragged out front as a message while we dig out catacombs for burial.  All hail the Everqueen!

18th Opal, 501:  Winter.  The brook has frozen.  Snow covers everything and it is so very cold.

8th Obsidian, 501:  Well that was a quick winter.  Everything has thawed already.

26th Granite, 502:  More migrants.  By the Everqueen's grace two animal trainers have been sent to us.  Time to start an operation to capture panserblekks en masse,

11th Slate, 502:  Our Ashalim has doled out the Everqueen' s justice again.  Thankfully he has learned restraint and did not kill this one.  He is the first patient in our newly carved hospital.

21st Felsite, 502:  Elves.  Bastards.  Want to trade.  An immigrant glassmaker has been taken by a mood, setup facilities for him and stole some sand from the elves.  Can't wait to see his results.

15th Malachite, 502:  Panserblekks aren't bright.  I have dozens of them now.

18th Malachite, 502:  The glassmaker is finished.  Stonesavages, a set of green glass earrings with hanging rings of promethium.  It depicts the rise of our great Everqueen Ashalim Teaglaciers.  All hail the Everqueen.

7thGalena. 502: Damn, my trainers are telling me Panserbekks cannot be made into war beasts.  Atleast they are a good source of meat

13thGalena, 502: Disaster!  The traders unpacked their goods and something exploded.  I blame the elves really.   Killed 1 wax worker, 1 cart, and 1 trader  And the elves have shown up now.. Suspicious!

[WillowLuman]

Not war trainable? Huh, I thought I gave them that token. Feel free to add it to your game in progress.

[Putnam]

Halflings don't have [APPLY_CURRENT_CREATURE_VARIATION].

That shouldn't work...

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[BODY_SIZE:40000]
...that's weird

EDIT: There's a lack of secrets, curses and hiveable creatures. I think I should work on those.

EDIT 2: Some books you can find on my third secret:

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Appellations of the Divine
The Sobriquets of Creation
The Instruments of Actuality
Denotations of Comportment
Symbols of Mien
And the raw token:

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[INTERACTION:SECRET_METAPHYSICAL_PUTNAM]
It's open-ended as hell; I have an idea, but I'd rather it come up naturally as DFFS continues with other's ideas, get a nice big mythology going. It's fun that way, and makes for some interesting stuff.

Spoiler: my idea (click to show/hide)

"Form". Creatures have form, but it is nebulous. A normal person sees a formic, a halfling, a mamaphint. One who understands the nature of form, and where it came from, can see how a creature is formed from individual parts and judge which great power created it from there. One who is well-learned will know all of this. However, a few who study hard enough this form can see something others cannot: where this form originates, a power even higher than the creators, one who vested power in the creators to create their world but had little hand him/her/itself. One who knows this and studies it well enough can learn to manipulate creatures' forms, to a small extent. Other forms are incapable of being manipulated; even those with knowledge know not why this is. Due to the power this gives, the secret is guarded closely, not taught to the public at large. Such a thing would be disastrous. After all, knowledge grants immortality; mortality is just one part of a creature's form.

[Timeless Bob]

Sounds like a mashup of the Platonic Ideals and the Tao becoming yin/yang which in turn becomes the five major elements (and twenty minor ones)

[Putnam]

Sounds like a mashup of the Platonic Ideals and the Tao becoming yin/yang which in turn becomes the five major elements (and twenty minor ones)

Spoiler: how I came up with this (click to show/hide)

Hehe, never heard of the Platonic Ideals, but that's what this is, yeah, all the way down to the terminology of "Form" being used. I mostly just thought "how could Dwarf Fortress's mechanics plus this style of succession game be used to build a mythology?" then went from there; Plato's theory of Forms just happens to fit that well. The Tao stuff... yeah, that's mostly unconsciously how I write religious/metaphysical stuff.

I really like this mythology-writing jazz, so I may come up with a sort of creation myth that also explains worldgen and such.

[Halfling]

Putnam, love the idea of adding myth and mythology. I haven't heard from mocman, so grab the files and start your two weeks, please 

Remember there's vampires and paladins already though. Being a paladin is meant to protect you from turning into something else such as a night creature, a "purist" mode like mutation resistance. Personally love the option to stay without strange, even useful alterations easily - Would be great if that stays working. You can add backstory to and tweak those as you see fit too, however.

I see no reason to not add creature classes, since that doesn't change the actual creature. Can probably just assume permission for those absent no*w (edit: damn phone)

[Putnam]

Yeah, I'll keep the immunities in mind. Also, creation!

Spoiler: Mythology of Our World (click to show/hide)

In a time before time, there was nothing but Form; Form that, paradoxically, had no Form. The first of the Greater Creators created the first Form that had Form: the halflingoid living structure Form, commonly known as a "body", that which has a torso, head, abdomen and vertebrae. From the first body, ears, and teeth, Halflings were made; the first "living Form", known commonly as a "creature". More bodies were formed from the Form, and more creatures thus. Hounds, mallards, bank voles, tits and others were made, the first set of living Forms. Creation continued, passed on between Creators, overseen by the First. The Great Creators are not done. On the contrary, they are still working; however, we will never see the affect on this. For the creation of the world we currently live in is quite different.

The creation of our world is not like the creation of the Forms made of Form. The first Halfling was not a Halfling at all, but an ideal of a Halfling, a template to build other Halflings on. S/he had every feature every Halfling could have all at the same time. The event that spawned all Halflings out of this ideal is known as Genesis. At Genesis, the Lesser Creator of our world saw fit to give form--not Form, but form--to a world which S/he (for we know not about the Lesser Creator's true nature) would be able to manipulate. Yes, manipulate. We know not of the Lesser Creator's true nature, but we know of Their behavior. Any individual acting oddly, any fortress lost to a strange thing like a drawbridge accident--that could be the influence of the Lesser Creator. There are many Lesser Creators, yes, and many worlds with them. Form, which is, is used by The Greater Creators create the Forms which populate the Lesser Creators worlds. We will learn more of the Lesser Creators at a later date.

[Timeless Bob]

As "Greater Creators", I'm betting you'd go absolutely ape over Pythagoreanism. It's some pretty good metaphysical stuff.

[Ombragon]

I have finished the dragonbee, but i don't know if it fit for df from scratch (I've tried I promise)

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[CREATURE:DRAGONBEE_OMG]
   [DESCRIPTION:A strange, winged worm who can produce liquid sugar.]
   [NAME:dragonbee:dragonbees:dragonbee]
   [CASTE_NAME:dragonbee:dragonbees:dragonbee]
   [CREATURE_TILE:249][COLOR:3:0:1]
   [PETVALUE:10]
   [PET][FLYING]
   [NATURAL]
   [VERMIN_GROUNDER][FREQUENCY:100]
   [SMALL_REMAINS]
   [NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
   [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:1]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:100:300]
   [PREFSTRING:ability to produce honey]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][NOTHOUGHT]
   [NOBONES]
   [BODY:VERMIN_BODY_HLG:4WINGS_STL]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:LIGHT_CHITIN_MATERIALS_STL]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:LIGHT_CHITIN_TISSUES_STL]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:INSECT_LAYERS_STL]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:ALL][CREATURE_CLASS:INVERTEBRATE][CREATURE_CLASS:ARTHROPOD][CREATURE_CLASS:MINEINSECT]
   [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]   
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:JUICE:ANIMAL_JUICE_OMG]
      [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:TEAL]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:5]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen blue honey]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen blue honey]
      [STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:TEAL]
      [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:blue honey]
      [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:blue honey]
      [STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling blue honey]
      [STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling blue honey]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:3:0:1]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
   [EXTRACT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:JUICE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [SPEED:1000]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:1000]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [NO_DIZZINESS]
   [NO_FEVERS]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]

And the "juice" material

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:ANIMAL_JUICE_OMG]
   [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:CLEAR]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:1][STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen juice]
   [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen juice]
   [STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:CLEAR]
   [STATE_NAME:LIQUID:juice]
   [STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:juice]
   [STATE_COLOR:GAS:CLEAR]
   [STATE_NAME:GAS:spattering juice]
   [STATE_ADJ:GAS:spattering juice]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [SPEC_HEAT:1000]
   [MELTING_POINT:10000]
   [BOILING_POINT:10180]
   [HEATDAM_POINT:10100]
   [COLDDAM_POINT:9950]
   [LIQUID_DENSITY:1010]
   [MAX_EDGE:0]
   [ABSORPTION:100]

and yeah they aren't hiveable, just pressable (a reward for surviving the caves)
and I don't think cheese mice are a good idea, I think I need better critter, like I don't know... valuable juice producing worms/wasp/lizard ?

[Vgray]

Should we bother to explain the Arena?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Likely swamps, since that's where the last modding turn was focused.

If you are refering to mine, due to lack of time I was unable to create even 1/4 of what I wanted to do.  A week earlier, and I would have been able to.

[WillowLuman]

Would my recent creations, people who have sacrificed their physical bodies for immense mental powers, fit into that? I think they could. One thing I'm not sure of is the idea of all player turns being aberrations by lesser creators, though. I think we should still allow for RP characters doing things of their own will.

Speaking of which, I'll be uploading the updates to my stuff soon. If the 8 error lines is too much, I will not include my Adherents of the Mind.

[Timeless Bob]

I think the Players would be "lesser creators" in that they are inspiring the Characters to do things atypical to their usual mode - except for during world-gen no-one decides to "go on a rampage", "explore the area around" or even "hunt great beasts in the wild", without the inspiration to do so from forces outside their plane of existence.  Likewise, dwarven fortresses are inspired by "lesser creators" because the "greater creators" can sometimes supercede their authority by inspiring artifacts.

When you look at it, it really just comes down to authority over form and inspiration being the measures of relative Divine Power.

The in-game Gods, however, where would they be classified?  How about the Titans and FB's?