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[kopout]

specifically, giving them
[TISSUE_SHAPE:FEATHERS]
should make most attacks pass through.

[WillowLuman]

Only works for edge attacks, though. If it's that big an annoyance, we could a) write a little script to get rid of the 8 error lines the creature generates or b) remove creatures_psi_HugoL.txt while testing other things and only put it back in for a release. It still needs work, and I'd prefer not to release it until I find something better.

But I know what the issue is there, which is why I asked you to ignore it just for now. What I don't get is why the other bugs.

But seriously, the dupes.

We need to test a fresh build, see if the problem is with a clean download or if vgray just unzipped improperly. The error log he's posted contains repeats, though, it's just this repeating:

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*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/item_gnorm.txt"
THONG_GNORM:Unrecognized Item Token: LAYER_UNDER
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/b_detail_plan_gnorm.txt"
CORE_TISSUES_GNORM: ADD_TISSUE needs 2 tokens: FEATHER_TEMPLATE_HLG:
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature DAEMONIC_CHERUB
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:MALE:right wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:MALE:left wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:FEMALE:right wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:FEMALE:left wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
Cannot generate random creatures -- missing body gloss RCP_GLOSS_PAW
Duplicate Object: tissue_template NERVE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE_HLG
Duplicate Object: tissue_template TOOTH_TEMPLATE_HLG
EDIT: A quick search of a freshly downloaded objects folder confirms that gnorm's tissue template contains duplicates of 2 of Halfling's tissues.

[Vgray]

For completeness, this is what I get in arena.

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*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/item_gnorm.txt"
THONG_GNORM:Unrecognized Item Token: LAYER_UNDER
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/b_detail_plan_gnorm.txt"
CORE_TISSUES_GNORM: ADD_TISSUE needs 2 tokens: FEATHER_TEMPLATE_HLG:
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature DAEMONIC_CHERUB
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:MALE:right wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:MALE:left wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:FEMALE:right wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
DAEMONIC_CHERUB:FEMALE:left wing, layer 4: Tissue FEATHER was not found, using first tissue instead
Cannot generate random creatures -- missing body gloss RCP_GLOSS_PAW

[WillowLuman]

Looks like we have 3 problems:

-Thongs
-Feathers in Gnorm's BDP
-Duped teeth and nerves.

All we have to do for the dupes is replace "HLG" with "Gnorm"

[Halfling]

Thanks for finding them. Remember, duplicates potentially affect everything in the game, so until they're fixed nothing is really sound including any further bug reports.

You might just as well remove the duplicates. If the creatures reference them with the appended _HLG they'll have no problem accessing them from my files.

The issue with thongs is the correct form is [LAYER:UNDER], not [LAYER_UNDER]. This
"CORE_TISSUES_GNORM: ADD_TISSUE needs 2 tokens: FEATHER_TEMPLATE_HLG:"
may fix all the feather bugs once adding the tissue is done right.

[reemer30]

Ok, Those three errors are fixed. But it seems that in adding the feather token I have damaged the token for skin, I must check the raws again for this.
Uploaded version with the original errors fixed, as I cannot locate a misspelling or anything similar in the body raws.

[Gnorm]

I'm sorry that my creatures have caused these glitches. I managed to fix them on my own during some personal modding, but I never uploaded the newer raws.

[kopout]

mechanisms made from wood

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[REACTION:MAKE_WOOD_MECHANISMS]
[NAME:make wooden mechanisms]
[BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[PRODUCT:100:1:TRAPPARTS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
[SKILL:MECHANICS]


[Ombragon]

kabooom (what ?)
I have a new bunches of ideas !!

A drunian-man civilization
A dragonbee (crossbreed between a bee and a dragonfly) a cave vermin who can be pressed for honey-like juice
Ash-based plant for the fourth layer (cinderbulb, ashbush, blackthorn)
Oh yeah and maybe some useful colony ? (like cactus-farming-desert-ant or honey producing mice ?)
And finally large fishes like shark-guppy or giant salamanderfish

[WillowLuman]

Great! Except there is no fourth layer or any Drunians.

[kopout]

Great! Except there is no fourth layer or any Drunians.

the 4th layer is the magma sea, I don't think you can put plants there though

[Ombragon]

If you break into the magma sea all the plant will be released and start to populate your caverns

[Halfling]

In other news, mocman's turn has run long by 1 day. This prompts three things:

1. I pm'd him (but he hasn't been here for days)
2. 48 hours for him to show up, then it's skipsville
3. I'm thinking we could extend turns to 2 weeks since people seem to have about half the time now. Good/bad idea?

[WillowLuman]

If you break into the magma sea all the plant will be released and start to populate your caverns

Unless they didn't spawn there in the first place, which they didn't. Needs testing.

I support 2-week modding turns.

[kopout]

2-weeks is a good idea.