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[Poldon]

I've been keeping up with this thread the whole time, and I've gotta say I'm really looking forward to when it has enough of everything required to possibly be considered a 'finished world', though I imagine people will always want to add more.

It's going to be a world very different from DF, a world wholly conflicting and yet in a strange sort of harmony. It's wacky, it's crazy, it'll treat you to powerful tools, amusing creatures and many new, interesting and horrible deaths. It's a great example of an idea gone very right, and man is it cool to look at. The origins, the hilarious bugs, the numerous ideas and implementations, it's a hotbed of creativity and variety that one world created by one person just could not achieve, especially since it is not limited by conventions of realism.

I for one really enjoy where this is going and am eager what else comes in and what is the final result, should it come to a conclusion. I also think that it might serve as an excellent example of what can be accomplished by modding the RAWs.

Keep up the fun, hilarity and FUN!

[Gnorm]

Part 6: In which shit gets real for the good hobbits of Mastertea
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From the Journal of Gnorm

16th Limestone, 552



I traded today with my fellow halflings. I see now why they carry so much with them. The weight of all of the anvils I was trading with caused the merchant to complain about how how his animals couldn't carry the weight. This forced me to purchase heavier, more expensive goods. On top of that, he would continuously demand I gave him more anvils to pay for thousands more than what I owe. Those traders are just lucky that they're not hanging out with walking trees.

24th Limestone, 552

The cook that went mad over the lack of silk has finally screamed her self to death.



Her death was dishonorable; she shall be buried in a clay tunnel.

12th Sandstone, 552

The cook has been entombed in in a simple grave beneath the earth. It seems as if the days are going by without anything of moment to report.



26th Sandstone, 552

Gods above! a monster!



I've heard legends of these creatures, but never did I believe that I would actually meet one. A Man-eater is within range of Mastertea! The military must be mobilized immediately. I'll not stand to have my village destroyed!

28th Sandstone, 552



The diplomat was just killed. What a shame; he never gave me the export agreements.

1st Timber, 552

A soldier and a war dog have been killed. As unfortunate as this is, while the beast was distracted, one of our recruits surprised the beast and has it on the defensive.



2nd Timber, 552



This brave soul is the one that dealt the killing blow on the beast. His bravery is a true testament to this town. I'll see to it that his deed is not forgotten.



Odds bodkins! not again!

Supplementary Entry



More migrants have arrived, and thank goodness they didn't arrive just a few days earlier.

The list is:
1 Animal Trainer
1 Bone Carver
1 Mason
1 Thresher
2 Bowyers
1 Potter
1 Wax Worker
The population is now up to 54 bodies.

13th Timber, 552



This happens far too often these days.

14th Timber, 552



Good gods! the walking trees have returned. They seem awfully accepting of the fact that we practically maimed one of their own.

18th Timber, 552

I met today with the liaison; he seemed unconcerned about the recent attack and the dead former liaison.

23rd Timber, 552

What the hell is going on? In the distance I can see a great forest fire approaching our town! Where it came from I have no idea, but immediate measures must be taken!



26th Timber, 552

Everyone has taken shelter in the tunnels to avoid being burnt to a crisp. Everyone except the mason who refuses to leave the workshop. I feel sorry for him.



27th Timber, 552

Miasma from the rotting tarnish stalk is getting everyone on edge, but it's better than burning to a crisp.

1st Moonstone, 552

The fire has stopped, and just in time for winter. I wonder how such a fire could have started; certainly it could not have been intentional.

[StLeibowitz]

I have the slight feeling that we should probably reduce the frequency of halfling caravans.

Also, I may have to bugfix the alchemy stuff, as I forgot to mark the volatile incenses as "special", to prevent caravans from bringing them along. That might be the cause of the fire...

[Halfling]

Okay. It seems this play turn is uncovering lots of shortcomings. Let's collect a list of important fixes that could be added just now so sackhead or Hugo could add them.
If possible, please include an exact description of the fix and include a link so it doesn't take them forever to look for it.

Mine:

Urgent bugfix:
1. Fix anvil reaction to only give 1 anvil ever: in reaction_halfling.txt, in [REACTION:CAST_CRUDE_ANVIL_HLG], after [REAGENT line add [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT] token
2. Fix the apple tree reaction inclusion not actually working
3. Fix treelords not bleeding any material -> bleeding molten skin
4. StL's suggestion about adding [SPECIAL] to alchemy materials (I assume he will post more detail)

Wishlist:
1. Wagons for trade caravans
2. Remove summer from halfling active seasons (entity_halfling.txt) - my permission
(3. If someone else posts finished dirigible antilope raws or the new tarnish stalk scheme, those are on my wishlist too)

[WillowLuman]

BTW, if HLG is already someone's epithet, what should I use? I'll just use _HugoL

EDIT: Wagons added to body_simple_halfling and creature_halfling

[WillowLuman]

Having lot's of problems with the Dirigible Antelope raws. No tissue thickness on the torso or limbs.

Kopout, I need the BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT body detail plan.

[kopout]

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b_detail_plan_blimp_kpt

[OBJECT:BODY_DETAIL_PLAN]

#--material and tissue templates--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]
[ADD_MATERIAL:LIFT_GAS:LIFT_GAS_KPT]

#--tissue layers--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:GAS_SACK:LIFT_GAS:50:SKIN:2]


Here ya go. I thought you were removing the limbs?

Would it be alright if I included mine with limbs if you include yours without? I    could make mine Gazeplin or somthing to avoid raw duplication problems

[Poldon]

Halfling your link to 'fanart' on the front page doesn't seem properly set up. It fills a 'post reply' with the quote of the post with the image, instead of linking to the post itself.

[Halfling]

Thanks. Fixed.

[WillowLuman]

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b_detail_plan_blimp_kpt

[OBJECT:BODY_DETAIL_PLAN]

#--material and tissue templates--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]
[ADD_MATERIAL:LIFT_GAS:LIFT_GAS_KPT]

#--tissue layers--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:GAS_SACK:LIFT_GAS:50:SKIN:2]


Here ya go. I thought you were removing the limbs?

Would it be alright if I included mine with limbs if you include yours without? I    could make mine Gazeplin or somthing to avoid raw duplication problems

Well, first I'm trying to get it to work. The raws I got were a bit messy, so after rearranging the body definition the only problem I have is with hooves.

Actually, anyone know why the game isn't recognizing kopout's body detail plans or tissue templates?

[kopout]

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b_detail_plan_blimp_kpt

[OBJECT:BODY_DETAIL_PLAN]

#--material and tissue templates--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]
[ADD_MATERIAL:LIFT_GAS:LIFT_GAS_KPT]

#--tissue layers--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:GAS_SACK:LIFT_GAS:50:SKIN:2]


Here ya go. I thought you were removing the limbs?

Would it be alright if I included mine with limbs if you include yours without? I    could make mine Gazeplin or somthing to avoid raw duplication problems

Well, first I'm trying to get it to work. The raws I got were a bit messy, so after rearranging the body definition the only problem I have is with hooves.

sorry about the mess 

Actually, anyone know why the game isn't recognizing kopout's body detail plans or tissue templates?

Gremlins!

(I have no idea, this is not even the strangest problem I ran into, just one of the few I couldn't solve)

[Halfling]

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b_detail_plan_blimp_kpt

[OBJECT:BODY_DETAIL_PLAN]

#--material and tissue templates--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]
[ADD_MATERIAL:LIFT_GAS:LIFT_GAS_KPT]

#--tissue layers--#

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:GAS_SACK:LIFT_GAS:50:SKIN:2]


Here ya go. I thought you were removing the limbs?

Would it be alright if I included mine with limbs if you include yours without? I    could make mine Gazeplin or somthing to avoid raw duplication problems

Well, first I'm trying to get it to work. The raws I got were a bit messy, so after rearranging the body definition the only problem I have is with hooves.

Actually, anyone know why the game isn't recognizing kopout's body detail plans or tissue templates?

Please post the complete content of raw files you're trying to use including headers. It's a little confusing otherwise at this point, you've been passing so many notes.

[WillowLuman]

Body detail plan

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b_detail_plan_kopout

[OBJECT:BODY_DETAIL_PLAN]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]
[ADD_MATERIAL:LIFT_GAS:LIFT_GAS_KPT]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_TISSUES_KPT]
[ADD_TISSUE:LIFT_GAS:LIFT_GAS_TEMPLATE_KPT]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:GAS_SACK:LIFT_GAS:50:SKIN:2]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HOOF_TISSUE_KPT]
[ADD_TISSUE:HOOF:HOOF_TEMPLATE_KPT]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:UNGULATE_LEGS_LAYERS_KPT]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:THIGH:BONE:30:MUSCLE:10:FAT:10:SKIN:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:KNEE:BONE:20:CARTILAGE:5:MUSCLE:10:FAT:10:SKIN:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:SHIN:BONE:30:MUSCLE:10:FAT:10:SKIN:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:ANKLE:BONE:20:CARTILAGE:5:MUSCLE:10:FAT:10:SKIN:1]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:HOOF:BONE:10:MUSCLE:1:HOOF:20]

Tissue template

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tissue_template_kopout

[TISSUE_TEMPLATE:LIFT_GAS_TEMPLATE_KPT]
[TISSUE_NAME:lift gas:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:LIFT_GAS]
[FLIGHT]// wiki says this might or might not do any thing
[TISSUE_LEAKS]
[FUNCTIONAL]// Should remove functionality from gas bag when lost due to LEAKS (covers bases in case FLIGHT dose nothing)
[STRUCTURAL]
[VASCULAR:0]
[PAIN_RECEPTORS:0]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:100]
[HEALING_RATE:300]//three times as long as vanela skin to heal. slowly replenishing it self after being rapidly lost.

[TISSUE_TEMPLATE:HOOF_TEMPLATE_KPT]
[TISSUE_NAME:hoof:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:KERATIN]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:100]
[VASCULAR:0]
[PAIN_RECEPTORS:0]
[HEALING_RATE:30]
[STRUCTURAL]
[CONNECTIVE_TISSUE_ANCHOR]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[SETTABLE]
[SPLINTABLE]

Creature

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creature_kopout

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE]
[DESCRIPTION:A passive, floating herbivore. They drift peacefuly through the air and flee quickly from danger.]
[NAME:dirigible antelope:dirigible antelopes:dirigible antelope]
[CASTE_NAME:dirigible antelope:dirigible antelopes:dirigible antelope]
[CREATURE_TILE:'G'][COLOR:6:0:1]
[PREFSTRING:bouyancy]
[PREFSTRING:dopey expression]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:12]

[BODY:CORE_HLG:GAS_BAG_KPT:UNGULATE_FORELIMBS_KPT:UNGULATE_HINDLIMBS_KPT:EXTERNAL_EARS_HLG:TEETH_HLG:TAIL_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_MATERIALS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_TISSUES_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_TISSUES_KPT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_LAYERS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:TEETH_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:UNGULATE_LEGS_LAYERS_KPT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXTERNAL_EARS_LAYERS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:TAIL_LAYERS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HAIR_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HAIR_ALL_OVER_HLG]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:HOOF:HOOF_TEMPLATE_KPT]

[CREATURE_CLASS:ALL][CREATURE_CLASS:QUADRUPED][CREATURE_CLASS:UNGULATE]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAMMAL][CREATURE_CLASS:VERTEBRATE][CREATURE_CLASS:BLIMP]

[BIOME:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE]
[BIOME:SAVANNA_TEMPERATE]
[BIOME:GRASSLAND_TROPICAL]
[BIOME:SAVANNA_TROPICAL]

[FREQUENCY:80]
[LARGE_ROAMING]
[MUNDANE][DIURNAL][PET_EXOTIC]
[FLEEQUICK]
[FLIER]
[PETVALUE:500][MAXAGE:15:25][NATURAL]

[POPULATION_NUMBER:100:1000]

[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:CLEANS_SELF_DAILY_HLG]

[HAS_NERVES][GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS][GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT][CHILD:1][HOMEOTHERM:10070]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:dirigible fawn:dirigible fawns]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2000]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:14000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:50000]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:90000]
[BODY_SIZE:3:0:1400000]

[GRAZER:428]

[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TENDON:400]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TENDON:400]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:BITE_ANIMAL_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:APPEARANCE_VARIABILITY_EYE_COLOR_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:APPEARANCE_VARIABILITY_BODYSIZE_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:APPEARANCE_VARIABILITY_BODY_HAIR_HLG]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]

Error Log

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*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/building_kopout.txt"
LUMBERYARD:Unrecognized Building Definition (Workshop) Token: '
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_kopout.txt"
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:Unrecognized Tissue Template: HOOF_TEMPLATE_KPT
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:FEMALE:gas bag, layer 2: Tissue LIFT_GAS was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:FEMALE:right front hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:FEMALE:left front hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:FEMALE:right back hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:FEMALE:left back hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:MALE:gas bag, layer 2: Tissue LIFT_GAS was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:MALE:right front hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:MALE:left front hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:MALE:right back hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead
DIRIGIBLE_ANTELOPE:MALE:left back hoof, layer 1: Tissue HOOF was not found, using first tissue instead

[kopout]

I think I see the problem.

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creature_kopout

[OBJECT:CREATURE]


[CREATURE:DIRIGIZELLE]
[DESCRIPTION:A strange flying ungulate. They drif peacefuly through the air and flee quickly from danger.]
[NAME:dirigizelle:dirigizelles:dirigizelle]
[CASTE_NAME:dirigizelle:dirigizelles:dirigizelle]
[CREATURE_TILE:'G'][COLOR:6:0:1]
[PREFSTRING:bouyancy]
[PREFSTRING:dopey expression]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:12]

[CREATURE_CLASS:ALL][CREATURE_CLASS:QUADRUPED][CREATURE_CLASS:UNGULATE]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAMMAL][CREATURE_CLASS:VERTEBRATE][CREATURE_CLASS:BLIMP]

[COMMON_DOMESTIC] testing resons

[BIOME:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE]
[BIOME:SAVANNA_TEMPERATE]
[BIOME:GRASSLAND_TROPICAL]
[BIOME:SAVANNA_TROPICAL]

[FREQUENCY:80]
[LARGE_ROAMING]
[MUNDANE][DIURNAL][PET_EXOTIC]
[FLEEQUICK]
[FLIER]
[PETVALUE:500][LITTERSIZE:1:3][MAXAGE:15:25][NATURAL]

[POPULATION_NUMBER:100:1000]

[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:CLEANS_SELF_DAILY_HLG]

[HAS_NERVES][GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS][GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT][CHILD:3][HOMEOTHERM:10070]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:fawn:fawns]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2000]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:14000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:50000]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:90000]
[BODY_SIZE:3:0:1400000]


[BODY:CORE_HLG:GAS_BAG_KPT:UNGULATE_FORELIMBS_KPT:EXTERNAL_EARS_HLG:TEETH_HLG:TAIL_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_MATERIALS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_TISSUES_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HOOF_TISSUE_KPT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_LAYERS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:TEETH_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:UNGULATE_LEGS_LAYERS_KPT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXTERNAL_EARS_LAYERS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:TAIL_LAYERS_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HAIR_HLG]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HAIR_ALL_OVER_HLG]


[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_MATERIALS_KPT]


[TISSUE:HOOF] //I wish I knew WHY it woun't let me add tissues as a b_detail plan :(
[TISSUE_NAME:hoof:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:KERATIN]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:100]
[VASCULAR:0]
[PAIN_RECEPTORS:0]
[HEALING_RATE:30]
[STRUCTURAL]
[CONNECTIVE_TISSUE_ANCHOR]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[SETTABLE]
[SPLINTABLE]

[TISSUE:LIFT_GAS]// I have no idea why this has to be difined here. But it dose, and woe betide those who try ANYTHING else
[TISSUE_NAME:air:N;P]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:LIFT_GAS]
[TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
[FUNCTIONAL]
[STRUCTURAL]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:100]
[TISSUE_LEAKS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]

[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BLIMP_LAYERS_KPT]


[GRAZER:428]

[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TENDON:400]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:TENDON:400]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:BITE_ANIMAL_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:SCRATCH_PAW_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:APPEARANCE_VARIABILITY_EYE_COLOR_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:APPEARANCE_VARIABILITY_BODYSIZE_HLG]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:APPEARANCE_VARIABILITY_BODY_HAIR_HLG]
[CASTE:FEMALE][FEMALE]
[CASTE:MALE][MALE]


This should work. As I said in the coments I have no clue why it needs to be done this way but it does.

[Halfling]

Your creature did not include [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HOOF_TISSUE_KPT]. I have no idea why you would need [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:HOOF:HOOF_TEMPLATE_KPT] so remove that and include the first one since you did define it.

Also, if you're going to use the latter (or the former for that matter) then I would assume that it needs to come before you declare the layers, as now it comes after and it's probably like

"This is bone, this is muscle... (not listing hoof)
...use BONE for this and use HOOF for the hooves"
"ERROR: WHAT IS HOOF" -> error to log
"Oh and for HOOF use HOOF_TEMPLATE"

That error choked StL's vespids.