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Author Topic: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.  (Read 525629 times)

kopout

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #975 on: July 25, 2013, 01:57:39 pm »

Giant floating [GRAZER]s with horns? Yes please.
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« Reply #976 on: July 25, 2013, 02:50:43 pm »

....This is why I should come to Community Games more often....

And I've now been inspired to brush up on my modding skills.
I will be following this :D
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #977 on: July 25, 2013, 02:53:59 pm »

Giant floating [GRAZER]s with horns? Yes please.

Also, they deflate if you puncture them, temporarily allowing them to move very fast as the gas escapes. This makes them hard to catch. Presumably attaching one to a restraint would look hilarious.
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« Reply #978 on: July 25, 2013, 03:44:16 pm »

Have you made these? are you making them now? if the answer to both of those is no I think I'll give it a shot
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #979 on: July 25, 2013, 03:50:16 pm »

I was thinking about it after finishing my succession turn. But I'm not working on it now, so give it a shot if you like.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #980 on: July 25, 2013, 04:47:02 pm »

Discovered annoying fact that making an air tissue that is gaseous, leaks, and [FUNCTIONAL], and using that inside the air bladder of my attempt at a flying jellyfish, does not cause said jellyfish to plummet from the air when all its air leaks out :(

Good luck on air gazelle, I await them with hunting rifle ready :D
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #981 on: July 25, 2013, 04:55:14 pm »

You'd need to give the bladder the [FLY] token, and make sure the creature doesn't have it. If [FLY] is defined only on the body part level, then a crippling injury to that body part disables flying.
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« Reply #982 on: July 25, 2013, 05:26:07 pm »

Hm

according to wiki [FLIER] is needed for both body part and creature. Creature with [FLIER] can fly without any [FLIER] parts but disabling [FLIER] parts when they are there apparently causes plummeting. Is this incorrect? Honestly not sure.

How about
- air sac has [FLIER] indeed
- air sac leaks syndrome-causing fluid that causes the creature itself to emit bursts of gas for a while ("gas escaping") and move very fast for a few phases?

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« Reply #983 on: July 25, 2013, 05:54:55 pm »

Hm

according to wiki [FLIER] is needed for both body part and creature. Creature with [FLIER] can fly without any [FLIER] parts but disabling [FLIER] parts when they are there apparently causes plummeting. Is this incorrect? Honestly not sure.

How about
- air sac has [FLIER] indeed
- air sac leaks syndrome-causing fluid that causes the creature itself to emit bursts of gas for a while ("gas escaping") and move very fast for a few phases?
That's about what I was thinking
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #984 on: July 25, 2013, 06:58:54 pm »

The air sac did indeed have the Flier token, yet they remained able to fly even with all the air gone, so long as the functionally-impaired part remained on them. Minor issue; perhaps the same syndrome that makes them move faster could also transform them into a sac-less, flightless version in the end, as well?
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« Reply #985 on: July 25, 2013, 07:06:15 pm »

That works but would make them heal all other damage. What if you make the syndrome impair that organ's function? Or cause extreme rot to it immediately?

If that doesn't work, could make it cause paralysis to the creature. That's pretty much implying they are immobile without their sac. If they're not supposed to suffocate then they need to not need to breathe, but otherwise probably would work.

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« Reply #986 on: July 25, 2013, 07:07:52 pm »

The sac has to be crippled to disable flying. It needs to have tokens that enable it to be crippled, probably "broken"
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« Reply #987 on: July 25, 2013, 08:18:39 pm »

Adding [STRUCTURAL] to the air tissue made it work as anticipated. Was amusing to have sent my enemy air-jelly to the ground, just to follow him a few moments later when my own air sac deflated fully :)

The relevant tissue and material, for those working on the blimp-gazelle:
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[INORGANIC:AIR_STL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PLANT_STRUCTURE_HLG]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:RED]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:air]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:liquid oxygen]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:air]
[BOILING_POINT:9671] Used oxygen
[MELTING_POINT:9606]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:9672]

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[TISSUE_TEMPLATE:DIRIGIBLE_AIR_STL]
[TISSUE_NAME:air:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:AIR]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
[HEALING_RATE:0]
[VASCULAR:0]
[PAIN_RECEPTORS:0]
[TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
[FUNCTIONAL]
[STRUCTURAL]
[TISSUE_LEAKS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
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Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.
It's like DF inhaled a peanut.

kopout

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« Reply #988 on: July 25, 2013, 08:31:27 pm »

I gave it functional but not structural. Will that still work.
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[TISSUE_TEMPLATE:LIFT_GAS_TEMPLATE_KPT]
[TISSUE_NAME:lift gas:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:
[FLIGHT]// wiki says this might or might not do any thing
[TISSUE_LEAKS]
[FUNCTIONAL]// Should remove functionality from gas bag when lost due to LEAKS (covers bases in case FLIGHT dose nothing)
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[TISSUE_MAT_STATE:GAS]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:100]
[HEALING_RATE:300]//three times as long as vanela skin to heal. slowly replenishing it self after being rapidly lost.
Material is left blank because I haven't gotten to it yet
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #989 on: July 25, 2013, 08:39:14 pm »

Apparently the organ does not count as damaged (in such a way as to lose flight function) despite leaking out unless it has [STRUCTURAL]. It's semi-explicit in the wiki entry:

STRUCTURAL - Holds the body part together. A cut or a fracture disables the body part it's in.
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