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Author Topic: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.  (Read 518955 times)

WillowLuman

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3390 on: February 10, 2014, 06:52:05 pm »

No. Look at the Fallout mod for something similar, with flamethrowers.

CAN_DO_INTERACTION is a special syndrome effect, and like others, can have a stoptime. For your syndrome, it should probably be the only symptom. If you put it on a timer, and make the syndrome a contact syndrome, then people will get it refreshed as long as they hold the item with bare hands, but will loose it shortly after ceasing to touch it.

You don't want the material to evaporate like the alchemy ones do, since that means the instruments will evaporate as well.
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3391 on: February 10, 2014, 07:01:28 pm »

We were talking about evaporating materials that give syndromes when evaporated.

I was thinking of using instruments in a reaction called 'practice instrument' that would give you different interactions(songs) with different effects.

Or, for the ethnic songs, I could have each civilization get a material that gives special songs, so using an x material fiddle might give you a lively country ballad while using y material bagpipes gives you a solemn dirge.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3392 on: February 10, 2014, 07:09:14 pm »

Bear in mind that the songs themselves (the interactions imparted by the syndromes) can directly apply their own syndromes without need of further materials.
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3393 on: February 10, 2014, 07:18:57 pm »

The way I see it I have two opinions.

I could make one material that has a syndrome set to give specific races certain songs since no one cares about other peoples race songs anyway, EX. Halflings would get three specific cultural songs, Formics gets their three, etc,
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I have each race get a specific material that gives specific songs, so if you want to play a lively country ballad you have to have a halfling violin regardless of race,

And I know.
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3394 on: February 10, 2014, 07:47:35 pm »

What do you think about after hearing the music creatures have a time where they can sing the melody for a much lesser effect.
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3395 on: February 10, 2014, 11:06:36 pm »

Is there a way to specify what instrument you make in a reaction?
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3396 on: February 10, 2014, 11:26:34 pm »

Is there a way to specify what instrument you make in a reaction?

Yes, make the reagent something like:
Code: [Select]
[REAGENT:A:1:INSTRUMENT:FIDDLE_HLG:NONE:NONE]
This will only accept halfling fiddles in the reaction. If you don't want the instrument used up, then add [PRESERVE_REAGENT] after the reagent, but before the next reagent or the product.
Code: [Select]
[REAGENT:A:1:INSTRUMENT:FIDDLE_HLG:NONE:NONE][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
E: Read a bit too quick, and thought you were asking for the reagent, not the product.

Here's a product:
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[PRODUCT:100:1:INSTRUMENT:FIDDLE_HLG:INORGANIC:ROCK_HLG]
This will make a rock fiddle.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 11:29:33 pm by BlackFlyme »
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3397 on: February 10, 2014, 11:34:36 pm »

Heres the question.
Do you all mind me sorta spamming the adventure mode reaction list with instrument making reactions?

Edit: I want a way to specify what instrument you want to make.

Too bad I cant just specify a certain races instrument to be made...
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 11:41:15 pm by Urdothor »
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« Reply #3398 on: February 11, 2014, 12:04:42 am »

I guess I could just make the syndrome purely race specific no matter what instrument you choose...
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3399 on: February 11, 2014, 12:11:50 am »

At the moment there are only five instruments anyways. And no two entities share an instrument.

Fiddles are exclusive to halflings.

Drums and violins are Lizardfolk only.

Trolls have kanteles.

No one uses flutes.

I'm curious; how many adventurer reactions do we even have at the moment? I may just check myself.

E: Three reactions. One to knap rocks, one to make a crude gun, and one to make ammunition for the gun.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 12:15:54 am by BlackFlyme »
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3400 on: February 11, 2014, 12:15:18 am »

3 I believe.
Four if you count the clean self.
I might actually make it race specific just because some playable races dont have instruments.
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3401 on: February 11, 2014, 12:22:42 am »

What do you all prefer?
Songs specific to the instrument or songs specific to race?

Edit: What about generic songs? Would anyone like generic songs in addition to the race specific songs?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 12:51:10 am by Urdothor »
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3402 on: February 11, 2014, 11:08:29 am »

I think maybe one generic song would be a good idea, maybe one per race. If you give music instruments the ability to give, using a contact syndrome in the material, the interaction called "Perform [song name]", add interaction hint always to the song interaction, then you have the basics of the instrument ability.

To tell you the truth, I think you should start with a single generic song and perhaps that/those of your own Glacier Men. If you then tell us what things we would have to copy and change to make our own songs, we'll be able to put more of our own ideas in.
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« Reply #3403 on: February 11, 2014, 05:26:31 pm »

Alright.
 I need to figure that out first myself.
Figuring out how I wanna set it up.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3404 on: February 11, 2014, 06:46:09 pm »

Speaking of music, I cant do anything mod related for the forseeable future.
Quad State band and such.
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