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[kopout]

Yeah, those values don't seem to relate to each other OR to the GPa values. How do you do is? Just make up the values?

[Halfling]

Use other materials for reference, eg. "this should be somewhat tougher than bone". Preferably "scratch" ones, for internal balance.

[Putnam]

Note that for yield values, lower is better.

[vyznev]

Honestly, I don't see any pattern at all in those values.  I went and plotted the numbers inside and outside the tags in the vanilla DF raws, and this is what it looks like:


(Not shown: the compressive strain at yield for bismuth, at 3387 (tag) / 31 (comment).)

As far as I can tell, the correlation is pretty much zero.

[Putnam]

There's a tiny bit of negative correlation there

[Halfling]

I keep looking at that picture, then at the file, and I can't make sense of it all. Is there some hidden algorithm Toady used, or is this just random work-in-progress? The same could be asked of some weapon values, such as the ones used for bolts where it's established they lead to unintended-ish behavior, and more appropriate ones explicitly suggested, I suppose.

Well, we don't even have any real values to correlate to, so nobody can say we're not being realistic.

In short, make it up, use other values for some reference, plug it in the arena to see that it's not game-breaking, and people will be happy.

[WillowLuman]

"Use other values for reference" (and arena testing) sounds like the best option of the three.

[Putnam]

Again, lower is better for strain-at-yield.

[kopout]

What about strain and fracture?

[Putnam]

Higher is better.

[Korbac]

The more you know...

[Gnorm]

How fares the modding, kopout?

[kopout]

Well, I got caught up with the nylon thing because I obsess, so not as good as I would like but I have a few new plants, especially trees. Mostly fruit trees but also some pines, might expand on them because they are quick. The lumberyard now produces four blocks per log with a make planks reaction. Ironically, because they are blocks they artificially inflate your fort value. The cheapest way to build a fort draws a plague of migrants. I haven't changed it because it was originally STL's but I think I might change it to produce something like wood boulders made with an ultra low value wood.

[kopout]

I've noticed that hounds and mallards are still everywhere. I thought we made it so hounds were only domestic and mallards only showed up in lakes, rivers, and wetlands? If it's ok I'm going to fix it.

In moding news, I'll be done with my turn tomorrow and Will upload no latter than Tuesday.

[WillowLuman]

Are they "Hounds" or "Feral Hounds"? There should be "feral hounds" in the wild. Both them and the ducks are restricted to certain biomes only, but still have high numbers within those biomes.